Alex in PA.

46 minutes ago, VKurtB said:

If you think it’s every day HERE, you should see it over at CoinTalk. It’s a cesspool of newbie misinformation. 

Just left from there.  There's a nutcase who can't take no for an answer.  He calls this ruined coin a 1909 S VDB found in the wild.  You can't even see anything it's so worn.   Everyone tried to tell him it's a 1919 S but no way Jose.  I think it's the season for this.  Did you get the PM I sent you.  I an find no bank in Lock Haven or Mill Hall witha coin shortage.  In fact when I asked at Jersey Shore Bank the woman said:  "Are you kidding?"  Very strange.

2 minutes ago, Just Bob said:

I thought that was Bachman Turner Overdrive

Oh no!  You found me out.  Now I'm done for sure.  Great album.  

3 hours ago, Zebo said:

Or maybe from another planet! just kidding quintus.  Keep it up - it is refreshing.

You get a LIKE for being nice.  Thanks.

I just received my coins that I sent in to you (5897933) and wanted to say thanks for a great job done and for all the years NGC has graded and encapsulated coins for me.  I am really pleased with the way this order turned out.  Thank you so much.

Alex

Oh Quintus:  In the words of a great Northwest trapper:  "You ain't seen nuttin' yet!"

3 hours ago, Quintus Arrius said:

(Can't. All I've pretty much  got left are Roosters, remember?)

If you want to see something mind blowing go to Collectors Universe website.  They have a post called Great Display by PCGS  some of  Bruce Morelan coins.  10 million dollar 1794 $1 PCGS SP66.  there's also another thread on that dollar.  Just for your info.

Go to www.ngccoin.com and call up the NGC fillable PDF.  In section 7 is a box labeled 'Variety Plus'.  Check this box.  Then in Section 11 when you enter a coin to be graded check 'Variety Plus'.

VarietyPlus® Tier + 5 working days Upon request, NGC examines coins for recognized varieties and assigns an appropriate attribution. Also choose a grading tier according to coin value and desired
turnaround. If you would like a coin already graded by NGC to be reviewed for a variety, do not select a grading tier. See NGCcoin.com/varietyplus for a complete
list of varieties we recognize. The VarietyPlus fee applies when requested regardless of whether NGC determines the coin to be a recognized variety.

1 hour ago, Quintus Arrius said:

This is the baseless pejorative on-line term that has been leveled against me by those who I suspect do not appreciate, or perhaps do not understand, my brand of humor and take exception to my thoughts -- and support of underdogs who simply wish to get a second- third- or fourth opinion without being bullied and run out of town.  You know you are onto something when the numismatic experts among us, shoot down a proposal to simply present a thorn in our collective sides (some eight pages long) to another coin expert as a waste of time only to find out, after referral and consultation, that the expert was delighted to investigate the matter.  Troll?  I've been called worse.  And, Alex, thanks for making the Forum a place where we can all express our thoughts and feelings freely and without fear of unwarranted criticism.

P.S.  Regarding the matter of merger of TPGS...  though I don't deign to know the inside story, I suspect some of the same naysayers now said the same thing re Bowers joining with Stack's, i.e., "Never happen! You don't know what you're talking about! The government won't allow it!"   Really! They are businesses and businesses are run subject to bottom lines. Whether by hostile takeover or a simple determination that merger would be in their best interests, it can happen. You cannot rule it out. Law firms routinely reorganize, merge and dissolve because that's the way businesses survive. And with the Covid-19, we are entering uncharted territory. Anything can happen.

First:  Pay no attention to the ultra critics and the few who are suffering from a superiority complex.  It's only a few and you can just ignore them.  Every coin post here and ATS I always read and keep an open mind,  So please stick around.  I know I am not the only one on this forum who enjoys reading your comments.

Second:  I can't speculate on a No. 1 TPG and a No. 2 TPG merger but I, like you, wouldn't be shocked  In fact I wouldn't be shocked if we wound up with just one TPG period.  No seconds, thirds or left overs.  Not possible they say?  A one word answer to that.  CAC.  While there are a few other outfits that will put a sticker on your slab CAC truly has cornered the market.  The other sticker outfits just don't have the reputation CAC has and eventually the will fizzle out.  That is unless we all send our slabs in a get some man stickers you can't see the coin.   I'll just leave it:  Maybe they will and maybe they won't .  If it comes to it I can always got back to the Whitman or Dansco albums.    

PS:  I always try to be polite until someone comes along with a bad attitude.

10 hours ago, Quintus Arrius said:

Never say never!  Never underestimate the power of the economic juggernauts amongst us that devour at will. These are perilous times. Lord & Taylor, around since forever, gone. Brooks Brothers, gone too.  The Covid-19 virus has changed the landscape. How many people watching right now ever thought they would cancel a coin convention? I have seen a lot of surprises in my lifetime. Someone's loss is another's opportunity. The pending merger, as far as I am concerned, is a done deal. A few years hence you will marvel at the accurate prediction made by that rank amateur, ME! The one they called Troll!

Quintus, I do not believe you are a Troll.  I think you are very knowledgeable about this business and that you have been around it a long time.  Your writing reminds me of someone from the past.  

While I am forced to admit that 'Proof-Like' coins are very pretty did you know that there is no definition of 'Proof Like' in the United States Mint Glossary of Terms and that you can not buy a 'Proof Like' coin from the US mint.  These coins referred to as 'Proof-Like' are nothing more than Business strikes.  When a new die is installed, or a die is polished,  and used the first coins off are very attractive coins.  The Term 'Proof-Like' is a description for a coin and nothing more.  Even though it is commonly accepted criteria for use the term 'Proof-Like' is subjective.  In difference 'Proof' is a verifiable objective quality.   I wonder how many ANA or ANACS slabs with that designation we can find between 1972 and 1986.  'Proof-Like' is a designation designed by coin dealers for coin dealers profit is it not?  PCGS and NGC were both founded by coin dealers; were they not?  As I stated before; I DO NOT begrudge an American individual or a American company the ability to make a profit.  My only interest is:  When will the ordinary coin collector, he or she, who does not sell coins for a living, get some benefit?  The answer to that is:  Never.  Long ago, coin collecting ceased to be a hobby and became a business.  The day of the true collector has long since passed.

I wonder what the miners would have done if that became law.  1850s in California was still the wild west.  And where have we heard that name Fremont before?

9 hours ago, VKurtB said:

Please, no. Stop it. The OP’s coin is not a proof and he’s off on a wild goose chase.

Yep.  And this seems to be an everyday occurrence here lately.

8 hours ago, Big Nub numismatics said:

I like how we've all tried to stay away but this thread is all too much fun!

Big Nub:  You've hit the proverbial nail on the head.

1 minute ago, Quintus Arrius said:

Thank you kindly!  You even threw in a reference to "horse blankets" which I haven't seen in the flesh since the 1960's.  Thanks again, for the memories and encouragement!

I meant a complete $1.00 set of Silver Certificates.  I like the large notes.

3 hours ago, VKurtB said:

A little cracked corn and they're good to go, right? I started in 1963 too. I just kept up with the industry's changes, deciding to embrace, rather than resist them.

1963 was a very good year.  I hope you got the PM?  I share Quintus disenchantment with our hobby in its present state.  I miss the old days of the ANA and ANACS before it moved to Colorado.  

I also have, and prefer, the large notes with a complete set of Silver Certificates.  Hand in there Quintus; this is, an ever changing hobby.

I agree with you Quintus. 

I wonder how I knew it would be you.  

Sorry, my mistake.  https://www.ngccoin.com/ 

7 hours ago, Conder101 said:

And that wasn't enough so + grades were added.`

Quite so Conder101.  The coin dealers were not satisfied with the monies they were getting on the Sheldon Scale Grading System so they got creative.  Hence, we, the average coin collector (not to be confused with dealer) were blessed with

+ and * and PL DPL Cameo Ultra Cameo BN RB RD etc. etc.  They're really pushing to get some more in such as 'Semi Prooflike'.  And with each one of these designations the 'collector' was bestowed with additional cost.  Now I don't begrudge a person to make his fortune but once in a while I would have like to have seen the average run of the mill kid collector get a break.  These are just my thoughts and my humble opinion.  Proof Like - Nope.  If it isn't a Proof coin it isn't.

My suggestion would be to go to www.ngc.com and pull up the US submissions form.  Cost will depend on what you want.  

  I have this to say about that.  Very educational and the conversation brings back memories.   

6 hours ago, kbbpll said:

I was in the mine they had at the Museum of Science and Industry in Chicago as a kid. It wasn’t real though, and I knew the difference. Even as a little kid I could tell when something was real or not. 

Sounds like you had a good time.  Children have an over whelming need to explore.  Thanks for the comment.

1 hour ago, VKurtB said:

Back in 1988, I went down into a Schuylkill County, Pennsylvania anthracite coal mine to take pictures for a Congressional candidate who wanted to burnish his (way) under the street cred for a campaign mailer. It was about 95 degrees outside and the mine shaft was about 15-20 degrees off of straight down vertical. The "weather" systems we went through on the way down were amazing. The candidate, who was a recent transplant from Michigan, got his clock cleaned.

Yes.  Nice country there and you're right.  The deeper you go in a mine you can really experience the changes.  I was in a Salt Mine in Austria that was 7,000 years old.  Kept going down and down and I was getting a little phobia.  Tourist thing when I was in Bertchesgaden, Germany on leave.  There was another in Colorado.  called the Molly Kathleen that was 1000 feet deep.  I guess they got gold out it for decades.

I can't participate in this.  What is meant by "Best"?  Best circulating, best looking, eh?  And what in Hades is 'Golden Era'?  Does that mean the time of the Zoot Suits?

The best circulated coin, in my opinion, was the Seated Liberty Dollar.  This is my final word on the matter.  Alex has spoken.

Hey VKurtB:  I was in a 'mine' once.  In Colorado.  Near Leadville.  Near Old Camp Hale.  Near a roaring stream.  Maybe I can help him.

Is this thread going to beat the record?  Wow, like 2004 all over again.