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No one need buy the ebay coin. One need not become a sacrificial lamb (with garlic and mint sauce) to answer the question.

None were in office in 1933 except O'Reilly. By 1945 Ross was there, O'Reilly was long retired, and an accountancy instructor was assistant director. It is the latter who created a problem where none existed.

The purpose is know the reasons for making a decision, not merely the decision. There must be no numismatic Reign of Terror by ignorance.

But --- how is "polished" determined? What visual clues are there to separate "polished coin" from "polished die?"

I'll search -- and see if I have any of the negatives/slides around. They were made for Dr. Darrell C. Crain Jr. as part of this tracking down the Coolidge gold medal designed by his father. (His medal collection was donated to George Washington University.)

Shhhhhhh...we want others to figure it out. (You're right, of course.)

There are people who are honestly stupid; then there are the ones who are deliberately ignorant. The former can be helped.

PS: Here's a detail image from the obverse. This is as sharp as I could get the image - the original is fuzzy.)

This coin is offered by an ebay seller where it is called Deep Mirror Proof Like (DMPL) https://www.ebay.com/itm/393536381847?hash=item5ba098a397:g:-~wAAOSwiuRhKUfL&mkcid=1&mkrid=711-53200-19255-0&siteid=0&campid=5338461489&customid=&toolid=10001&mkevt=1 What do you think, and why?

They have no place in any legitimate coinage series. Low quality imitations in the wrong alloy and fantasy commemoratives. Slab them if you must, but don't inflict them on set collectors.

Except for Charmy Harker, the other women in numismatics have said nothing....

Just an observation - the die work seems inconsistent with authentic pieces and portraits are exceptionally - excessively - clear for bronze/brass.

Yep, those are genuinely ugly medals. Do you mean "obsessed with sports" ?

He is stuck. Any collector with some portion of a brain will look at the coin, not the label, and offer AU value for the coin - that is all it is "worth." What you suggest is a "pass it to another sucker" approach. A thoroughly disreputable arrangement to any real numismatist would immediately reject. Just as in real estate, if "you" know something about what is being sold, it MUST be disclosed. Will that happen? Not with the approach implied.

Rather, it's unlikely that JA invented abrasion on the "MS-64" coin, and the owner is decidedly stuck if he bought the coin at MS-64 pricing. If it were sent to the TPG by the owner, then he is still out the possible expense of having it re-evaluated, and clearly out the emotional stress of having a "nice coin" shot down by an impartial expert -- one who very likely took far more time to make an examination than the TPGs indentured staff.

Something I prepared several years ago.

Maybe you could mix cos-play with coin-play....?

PS: Please....stop looking at the stupid label. Only the coins count. Look at them - very carefully and be critical. There's a post elsewhere where a coin labeled "MS-64" was rejected by CAC and the owner told by JA it was AU -- a "BU rub" or "cabinet friction" nonsense label. Fact was, the TPG likely screwed up and the owner is stuck. There is no such thing as an Uncirculated coin "with rub" or "with lite cabinet friction." It's horse hocky; donkey dust; fresh dino poo!

Yep. (PS: A shave and a haircut, now cost more than two bits....)

I photographed this and other items then owned by John Coolidge many years ago. I remember the plate as polished silver rather than native Georgia gold. I think they were all later transferred to the Coolidge historical site museum. Mr. Coolidge was not much interested in his father's awards and gifts. He hung out in the living room of his Plymouth Notch home witching the Patriots football game, while my wife and I were in the attic photographing coins, medals, etc. https://coolidgefoundation.org/the-foundation-historic-site/site/about-the-historic-site/

Similar terminology is used for authentic blanks, planchets and other items that were not circulating currency.

There is an active specialty group for Barber-design coinage collectors --- can't think of the name right now.....

When NARA re-opens, which has now been delayed, I'll check the production and sales figures. This and the previous versions were standard US Mint products - part of the Presidential Series - and sold without restriction. However, this one was available only for 3 months, so it will be interesting to learn the quantity sold. Issue price was either $1.50 or $3.00, if I remember correctly. (I'll probably write a short article so that the information can get into published form for future reference.)

Arrived in perfect condition - USPS. The medal was withdrawn when FDR died in April 1945.

Graded "VF" = "Very Flat." If I'd been driving a truck I might have gotten a solid "EF" - "Extremely Flat."