Morpheus1967

I honestly do not understand this. You paid at minimum $16 for a coin that is now valued at $7 at the high end of retail, probably closer to $5. You are literally throwing money away.

Considering ebay lists NGC as a trusted source of graded coins numerous times on their website, and has a pricing relationship with them, this really surprises me that they sided with the buyer. I would also block that buyer.

It's not supposed to have a mint mark. No bullion ASE have a mint mark. Supposedly they are able to discern that it was minted in Philly is by the serial number on the strap that sealed the monster box. However, take it out of the slab, and you lose any sort of provenance as to the mint.

I bet they're delicious.

If you are that thin skinned, perhaps an internet forum is not the place for you.

This one stings. Van Halen was the first concert I ever went to. Stood out in the Minnesota winter cold all night in line all night just to be able to purchase tickets when the box office opened. (Our younger members may not know of a time before TicketMaster and other online ticket brokers lol.) This was back in 1984. Great concert, and one of the best guitarists. RIP Eddie.

Yea, I noticed that when I uploaded the pictures. That's why I was going to take another look at the coins tonight. I will clean the slabs up and repost if necessary. Thanks Mike. (Assuming that is your actual name lol).

And thanks for all the feedback. I know grading is totally subjective. I will have to look closer at the coins this evening. The photos I posted here are quick photos I posted on ebay. I can take better ones if you see something I should look at.

Here are the coins that did not cross. Any scratches you see are on the slab itself. If anyone can point out issues, I am definitely up for some learning.

You've said some whacked out stuff on this forum, but this one might just take the cake.

You are not taking into the total number of coins submitted. Less than 3,000 have been submitted to PCGS. The bulk submissions went to NGC on this coin, so of course the pops are going to be much higher.. And yes, I am surprised only 1 of 4 crossed. If NGC is grading it as a flawless coin, it should be flawless, no? Or at least better than 25%. Am I to assume that any of my other NGC coins graded at 70, only 1 in 4 are truly 70? Is PCGS that much more stringent in grading? I am, of course, being somewhat facetious. But it's not like I was trying to crossover a 1921 peace dollar graded MS63 in an ICG slab to PCGS or NGC.

I will freely admit that I am not versed enough yet in being able to look at, say an MS67, and say with any degree of certainty that this should cross over. I did, however, feel I was pretty safe in submitting 70's with the hope that at least 3 of them would cross. I mean, a 70 should be a 70, right? (I'm not really that naive, but you get my point.) I will definitely chalk it up to a learning experience. Thanks for all the feedback everyone.

Aren't you tied for the number one set ATS lol? Yes, I will also probably start an NGC set as well. The only reason I went ATS for this set is because they don't have all the ridiculously low mintage privys as part of their set. Here, you can't put together a simple MS set because they only have one all inclusive set. All the privys, proofs, etc.

No toning. And yes, thankfully at least one crossed lol.

I sent in 4 of all the same coin, the 2017 silver Krugerrand. All had NGC grades of SP70. An SP70 in a NGC slab goes for about $60. The last one that sold in a PCGS slab went for over $500 at Stacks Bowers. So with getting at least one that crossed, I guess I should be ok with it. Although, part of me wonders if it was the way I submitted. I joined PCGS under the gold membership to get the 4 free grading vouchers. So I used those for the crossover, as I don't really ever envision sending in raw coins to them. I would hope they give them the same attention as sending in raw coins, but who knows. I just find it hard to believe that I had less success in crossing over so called "perfect" coins than the average crossover success rate for the year with them. (34% for the last 30 days, 33% ytd.)

So I had 4 coins in NGC slabs. I sent them ATS for a crossover, because I needed one in the other guy's slab for a registry set there, and they are impossible to find in the wild. Now, all of the coins had a perfect grade. My hope was to obviously get all 4 to cross over, but realistically I would have been happy woith three of the 4, with the plan to sell the other two to recoup some of the cost from the submission. Well to my surprise, only 1 of the 4 crossed over with a perfect grade. Luckily they did not crack the other three out, so they are still in 70 slabs. But is this surprising? Are they that much more stringent? FYI, the NGC population for this coin in a 70 is over 10,000. ATS, there are less than 300.

I have a Fedex package that was delivered on 9/24 that is still not in the system. This was a label supplied by NGC for a reholder due to mechanical error.

Thanks Lisa. Another quick question. I know you guys are about 2 weeks behind opening mail. Does that include Fed Ex?

Down again.

If you ever go to sell it, it is another point of comparison to prove it's authenticity. I mean, if I were to buy a $3000 coin in an NGC slab, I would feel better if I could compare it to photos on the NGC website.

Not sure why he needs to post a picture of it? Only bad things can happen by opening the box and handling the coin. Not really much you can ask for. I would NOT open the box or take it out of the box. I would simply put it in a larger box and send it off for grading. You could ask for Early Release or First Releases designation on the label if you are into that kind of thing. You have to ask for it on the submission form, and NGC has to receive the coin withing 30 days of it's release. However, by not opening the box, you can extend that 30 days indefinitely if you send in an unopened, mint supplied box along with your receipt. A coin of that value, I would also request photos, but that costs more as well.

How is he "following you"? He is simply reading a thread where he made a very useful contribution. Whereas you, on the otherhand, continue to abuse your thesaurus.

It looks like your closest location is Hong Kong. Locations