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IMO, the shield design looks nothing like the mark on your coin. Additionally, die clashes don't come on the relief - the deep part of the die. I still think it is a damaged coin,; HOWEVER, I've never seen denticals on an Indian head as show from 2 - 6. They look like they have dots close to the edge above some of the teeth. Looking again, I do see the top of the wreath. I vote "Squeeze Job."

The folks who could do this DON'T open the mail or grade coins - unless things have changed.

Unfortunately, when one of the other active members quotes his nonsense I get to recall his name. BTW, this is only the second alert I've received in five days here! I think as a place to discuss numismatics, this place will never recover WITHOUT A VERY ACTIVE (Multiple times a day) INTERESTING & INFORMATIVE INPUT FROM NGC EMPLOYEES. . I have not given up YET; but if about five members here went to another site, I would leave and join them.

Looks damaged. Let's see a close-up of the feathers.

Digital microscopes have come a long way! I wonder what the next decade will produce.

I'm an "outsider." I don't have any control over what other TPGS do. I post what I hear/think they do. Sometimes I'm correct and sometimes I'm wrong. When I'm wrong, I expect to be corrected so thanks in advance for future corrections that may be needed. That will save me a reply. Anyone who has a question with what a TPGS does can call that particular service. In case you have not figured it out, I'm comfortable in my own skin and do not seek popularity. We usually call the customer. I cannot say more on the NGC forum except I don't like the way PCGS does it.. BTW, is the "traffic" on this forum picking up or normal?

Here's the deal. A TPGS can do whatever they want.

None of the services slab coins with PVC residue! It is a judgement call because coins with PVC are in every TPGS holder. There is a difference between a coin that is cleaned, scratched, etc and one with obvious PVC haze or spots.

Most folks would. A long time ago so would a TPGS. Keep the money and tell the submitter the edge was filed. Duh? Is my coin authentic? Times have changed. Now, every major TPGS (AFAIK) will slab this in a detail holder because they don't have your option: "I'd have rejected the coin."

You can help. Start a new discussion. It is in an induced coma and we are trying to wake it up.

Look at the bright side. Over there, you were a big fish in the ocean. Over here you are a big fish in a large, under-stocked, home aquarium.

Speaking for yourself of course.

Actually it was graded. AU-something, damaged edge. Any quiz I post USUALLY has a trap to make folks think. You should have been around when I posted two counterfeit gold coins and asked which one was the genuine? One member posted that #2 may be a genuine coin with a damaged edge but there was no way to tell.

I agree - block the quoted post; but leave the unblocked member's answer. I'm delighted with this "block" idea and I'm going to use it on another forum for another "non-contributing" pest.

Answers; As one member posted, many of these coins would be obvious fakes if you could see them. That's one reason I usually do not image the other two sides and just keep "edges" in a folder. 1. Counterfeit. Even, uniform, virtually identical reeding is more often than not found on counterfeits. 2. Genuine $10. My typical curve ball so don't assume anything I post in the quiz introduction. You'll see. Anyway, no one is expected to get this one although one member mentioned that it could be a genuine coin with a repaired edge. This coin was not in jewelry so who can say why the entire edge was carved up. Perhaps to recover some gold filings? 3,Counterfeit. Shallow and even reeding. Should make you suspicious but remember EVERYTHING we see on a counterfeit we'll EVENTUALLY find on a genuine coin. 4. Fake. Looks genuine but this is the type seen on the modern Chinese fakes. Note the different thickness on the reeds on the left. 5. Fake. Crude, shallow, uneven reeds. Another typical Chinese edge. 6. Fake. Old time cast counterfeit with edge seam. .

LOL, UNFAIR is not in my vocabulary. Everything within the rules is fair on a chat board. I'm mot here to make friends. That happens or it does not. First they need to get past a very abrasive reply I don't like a post directed at me, the devil on one shoulder and the troll on the other.

Love it! I read your post exactly as it was stated. Of course you are correct but YOU DON'T GET A SAY. Every coin in this quiz is an "across-the-room" counterfeit. In an attempt to revive this dismal excuse for a coin forum, I posted something very difficult for 95% of collectors/dealers with a trick twist. I'm not interested in anything except building participation on the NGC site: Trying to get all the lurkers involved. Trying to get folks to describe what they see in an image. As for your NON-numismatic dribble... A. Yes, I don't like to spoon feed anyone any time. I will bend that rule just a tad when I'm conducting a private.class ($1500) with a dealer or collector. B. Only an ignorant collector would not know the TPGS I work for at the moment went out of business. Perhaps if our volume when down or I spent less time on the phone talking about their submission with our customers I could go home before 8-8:30 PM each night! C. Absolutely YES! I love my profession. I have been joking for years that I will be found dead at my desk. Additionally, wives, horses, sailboats, and sport cars are expensive to keep up. D. Thankfully, I reached the point in my career when I rarely ever look at many of those coins around 2005. E. Yes but you forgot to add quite a few more.

Answer when I go to lunch break. This forum is really dead. Without posters, commenting or starting threads it will stay that way. There is a big plus though, a dozen guys can have a private space to chat for free.

Thanks for your comments. You are either clairvoyant or I failed to see you looking over my shoulder to see what I look at first. You don't deserve an answer but here it is. Authenticating coins can be boring at times. I like to play learning games with myself. Very often, I'll pick up a coin by the edges and close my eyes. Then I'll open them when the coin is standing on edge under my scope. I'll try to authenticate it, and pick the date and mint by its edge reeding. Presently I'm trying to learn how Morgan dollar experts can look at the obverse rim and correctly guess the coin's mint. They also know the luster types on different dates. Anyway, I'll be waiting for you to start a quiz so you can do as you wish. I'm fresh out of silver spoons!

Actually, it is not. For example, any experienced, knowledgeable numismatist could easily pick at least two of these just by the image. That's what we all should wish to strive for. To be an experienced, knowledgeable numismatist at the youngest age possible.

THIS is an EXCELLENT POST, possibly one of the very best replies I have gotten on a quiz. This member DESCRIBED what he saw in each image and then took a guess. Whenever, you are looking at something on a coin, it helps to describe what you see as that will eliminate some of the possibilities. All the images are US coins. The reason this is very difficult for most here is because you cannot see the entire coin. There are characteristics on each edge which would be helpful for an authenticator. Most collectors do not study edges!

Coins have three sides. Which of the following images shows the edge of a genuine coin? The images are posted in the first few posts because they don't fit on just one. Answer by telling which of the three posts and then top or bottom image. This is very hard as most don't bother to look at the edges of a coin.

Nope, Just like a diamond it's forever. Here is a funny story that could be applied on this site. When I was single, I joined Match.com. I put in all the parameters for the women I wished to meet and hundreds of them popped up within 25 miles. Next I started to delete any of them that I was not attracted to just by their appearance. I probably deleted a lot of wonderful women. BTW, I never had a "bad" date on Match. Anyway, the funny part of the story is a member is only allowed to delete a certain number of profiles. I'll guarantee no one ever searched the way I did. I broke down their system with hundreds of rejects! After a week or two when I complained, they must have added more space as I began deleting more. ! met my wife on Match. What's that have to do with this forum? I wonder how many members can be put on "Ignore?" I'll confess that this place is much better for me without the member I "dumped."