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On 3/5/2022 at 10:39 AM, Woods020 said:

Agreed. That’s why I was shocked to see the other go for that. And I really and truly would like for someone to point out how any graded higher are nicer. I’m sure it’s bias on my side since I own it, but I can’t find any issue with the coin.  

That Pf 69 grade is really just an appraisal by PCGS and how stunning to see a buyer among that group to throw around 'cheap' money like that

I don't see an obverse die cap with a D mintmark

On 3/2/2022 at 8:56 PM, Woods020 said:

Geez. I need to try and get mine a grade bump. I have a Proof 68 for this one, and it’s the most flawless coin I think I have seen. This one hurts your eyes to look at it. I love this coin, but I guess I could be persuaded to part with it for a steal at say $50k 😂. It’s currently at CAC, but I can easily ship it to you as soon as it gets back. 

The T2 coin you have is much more rare especially in that high grade than the T1

On 2/28/2022 at 3:12 PM, gmarguli said:

So not worth $90000 more than this PR68+ (CAC) example.

I think the NGC Pf 68+ example has more attractive toning and possibly even the more desirable coin. Of course its possible that the current owner could lose 80 Grand when he sells 

This kind of toning may not be attractive to some but the TPG's love original tone from individual cellophanes in the earlier years. 

On 11/5/2021 at 5:47 PM, Hoghead515 said:

I really like the sheen on this GW. It is one of my favorites I own. 

Not only is the toning superb but that luster is fantastic ! Good pick

On 2/9/2022 at 10:26 PM, VKurtB said:

I know the U.S. Mint hands out two piece sets of a recent BU cent and matching plain planchet at virtually all coin shows where they exhibit. I have many of them. I picked up a couple of U.K. ones at Llansitrant, Wales in 2019. There was one euro nation who handed out plain euro cent planchets. They really aren’t THAT tough to acquire, unless you sit in your butt at home in front of a screen. I just got my annual mileage report from App in the Air. My flying mileage is down ONLY because so many coin shows have not happened, NOT because I wasn’t going to go. I’m all ready to wing to ANA Colorado Springs next month. Maybe I can get a picture with Dan Carr just to “urine off” RWB and the other haters. 

Ask him if there will be any more Broken Sword Peace dollars will you ?

On 2/12/2022 at 1:53 PM, MarkFeld said:

The coin was subsequently reviewed by PCGS and CAC, and in or out of a holder, it would be very easy to match to its images.

Still missing my point Mark. If this coin appears at auction outside of a sealed holder they will likely want to have that coin in their possession because it is the property of the U.S. Government until they can confirm it is THE ONLY legal to own '33 Double Eagle. That would make me nervous. Have you read 'All That Glisters is Not Gold' by Stephen W. King ?

Looks like a matched set to me. Cent has reverse cameo and if fully cameo would make the deal

On 2/12/2022 at 11:03 AM, BillJones said:

Here is a picture of the NGC sample slab for the canceled event.

 

 

Nice full red Cent Bill. Would you say 65RD ?

On 2/12/2022 at 10:58 AM, MarkFeld said:

There was already a resolution, prior to the previous sale of the coin in 2002. This is from the catalog description of the coin at that time: 
“On January 25, 2001, just four days before jury selection was to have begun, The United States Government and attorneys for Stephen Fenton reached an out-of-court settlement. It was a singular agreement, and permitted the sale of the 1933 Double Eagle described in this catalogue.The United States Government will officially monetize and issue this single 1933 Double Eagle, making it unique and the only one certified for private ownership.”

 

On 2/12/2022 at 10:58 AM, MarkFeld said:

There was already a resolution, prior to the previous sale of the coin in 2002. This is from the catalog description of the coin at that time: 
“On January 25, 2001, just four days before jury selection was to have begun, The United States Government and attorneys for Stephen Fenton reached an out-of-court settlement. It was a singular agreement, and permitted the sale of the 1933 Double Eagle described in this catalogue.The United States Government will officially monetize and issue this single 1933 Double Eagle, making it unique and the only one certified for private ownership.”

 

My point was that if the Secret Service chose to review that coin for authenticity for resale it would be much easier to know that it was not a counterfeit if it was in an NGC/PCGS holder.

On 2/11/2022 at 10:40 PM, VKurtB said:

Wasn’t Oliver Wendell Douglas a character on Green Acres? Mmmm, Eva Gaborrrrrr. 

Maybe Arnold Ziffle could have been a juror. 

Even though Oliver Douglas was a man with a great legal mind and a man of considerable financial means he could not have a telephone installed inside his house. Heck he couldn't even get his sliding closet doors fixed 

This thread is a long one so pardon any duplication but shouldn't the Secret Service confiscate this coin when it surfaces for resale just to confirm it IS the only one legal to own ? 

Then how much money and how long do you think it would take to prove it was THE coin before you could get it back ? 

On 5/4/2021 at 9:16 PM, MarkFeld said:

So you can conclude that it looks like a “solid 66”, based just upon an obverse image? And despite the apparent contact on most of Liberty’s left (facing right) leg and on her breast area?

Do you think it's strange that NGC does not show images of that coin ? Without asking NGC has imaged every coin I've submitted in the last 10 years or so regardless of how it was submitted even reholdered coins.

On 2/9/2022 at 11:17 AM, Hoghead515 said:

You guys gonna think Im crazy. I got divorced once and then turned around and remarried the same lady. She can get mean sometimes but I like it rough. 

Here's another good one; bought a nice proof Kennedy, traded it back to the same guy, then bought it back even cheaper and it's a keeper.... still have it !

Likely a cast replica but I'm not qualified to respond further. Roger will straighten this out.

As far as Morgans go certain dates are notorious for striations which are vertical lines on the planchets from drawing strips. The reason you can see these lines is simply because the strike is week. Thes can often be seen on certain Morgan Dollars with week strikes one being 1902-S as well as some Carson City coins.

This one is higher grade example struck on a more attractive planchet in what appears to be a relatively early die state as well. Which strike is it 

And here is another but with XF specimenry.  Did I just coin a new word ? Die state on this one ?

I've been getting used to using Coin Explorer lately and there you'll find the explanation of the silver center plug to adjust planchet weight.

Was this adjustment procedure used prior to physical adjustment with a file or other mechanical means or just a more hygienic way to produce an attractive first silver dollar ?

Like other high grade moderns Pf 70 Ikes initially traded for thousands but after more were graded prices dropped as might be expected. Note that there really are a small number of those Pf 70's that are flawless but most I've seen have visible flaws without magnification which is likely the reason prices dropped. Uncirculated Ikes however are rare in MS 67 grades especially the dates where no mint sets were made those years. The 1971 Philly comes to mind as virtually unknown in MS 67.

On 1/29/2022 at 4:37 PM, gmarguli said:

Damaged is debatable. The coins were meant to circulate in an area where chopmarks were a normal part of the circulation process. Calling it damage would be the same as calling worn coins in the US damaged. 

I would call these coins bent

I'm sure chop marked Trades would get details grade but after a quick look at both Regestries I could not find any images. Some Details graded coins are listed but no images of chop marked coins were evident.

On 1/25/2022 at 4:21 PM, tj96 said:

I only have one, it's in my Dansco Type Set.  No chop marks.   I never had a preference one way or the other about chop marks. 

Besides, aren't chop marks Post Mint Damage?..................Don't answer that, that's for another thread!  

Chop marks are certainly post mint damaged coins so I'm not interested.

While other 1794's are known with a silver center, this one has something going on in the obverse center. What is that ?