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IMO the '84 and the '98 could have eye appeal improved (if they will conserve). But you could lose a grade if a couple hairlines are revealed when the haze is removed.

I strongly recommend (to anyone who plays at auction for coins) that you read this entire thread. There's information there that I did not know after bidding for 6 or 7 years now. I was aware of Heritage history though which was enough to steer me away years ago.

On 5/28/2022 at 8:02 PM, RWB said:

You can buy the book and get much more minutiae and little extra cost -- plus a full CD of nano-minutiae right down to the molecules in a gnat's eyelash.

 

OK--ok--the gnat part is a bit of hyperbole.

If you would have acted a few years ago you could have had one signed by Roger 

On 5/19/2022 at 5:57 PM, VKurtB said:

I try for logical consistency. I see the 1937-D 3 leg the same way you do. It’s an over polished die, period. Why should it be seen as special because of where the polish job was? 

Not only is a 3 Legger a poor quality Buffalo it is also not rare and maybe not even scarce. Many dealers have several. You could probably buy 10 examples if you could afford them.

It"s a superb '48-S looks semi prooflike great coin they just don't make them anymore. 

On 5/7/2022 at 6:08 PM, FlyingAl said:

This is very true. An example of such a coin can be seen below. It's a PR65, an average coin based on 1942 grades. I paid a pittance of $90 for it, and it shows better details than many 1942 proof quarters. This can be seen based on the eagle's tail fathers, full detail on all lettering, and some contrast being seen throughout. (Please note that contrast does not necessarily mean good detail, unless it is shown on the low points of the relief throughout the design.

In contrast, this PR67+ below shows much weaker detail on the eagle's tail feathers, wings, and lettering. It would cost me around $700 today. 

This all goes to show that a lot of the best detailed and attractive coins aren't PF67s, 68s, or 69s. They are often 64s, 65s, and 66s. I have a stunning 1942 Lincoln cent in 64CAM. I would take that any day over a severely over polished 68RD example because it shows what proofs should - full details and what the designer wanted the finished coins to look like. It's a shame that many of the collectors of this era compromise on detail for higher grades. The detail that proofs should show and the reason proofs are struck is therefore lost on many of the top sets, and those with lower grade truly stunning examples go unnoticed. 

Thats a nice '42, the Pf 65 coin I mean. Of course no Cameo quarters have been identified but here's one I bought as a duplicate and would call it Ultra Deep but no contrast. 

Its for real too. ANACS Pf 67 with no obvious hairlines but couple curious marks that probably would only merit a Pf 65 grade. I think the coin is rare this nice, any comments ?

On 5/6/2022 at 2:48 PM, FlyingAl said:

The 1937 has slightly more detail, though not much. This coin is support for possibility number one in my post and aligns with relief reduction.

The best coins of this series have a combination of the following:

1. Full detail

2. Color- not haze, but nice attractive original toning

3. Contrast

4. Deep mirrors

All of these can be found independent of numerical grade, and therefore a lot of lower grade coins can often be found with more eye appeal overall than some PF68s. The more coins there are in a grade level the more likely it is that some of these gems exist. This is why many CAM coins are lower in the grade scale when compared to non-CAMs.

I'm fond of this series as well and have avoided Pf 68 coins and because they are so few in numbers, they are often hazy and display luster rather than deep mirrors. Take a look at my Jefferson Nickel registry set if you wish. A couple Star coins are really attractive and show better than Pf 68 examples IMO. Last I looked it was rated 5th but the images are there.

Not here enough to know you were gone. Glad you're feeling better !

As far as being able to purchase superb coins good luck ! The best examples would be fully brilliant with no cloudiness and full detail, in otherwords an early strike that has some natural color without that cellphane haze. I'll post a couple later.

On 5/5/2022 at 8:47 PM, Woods020 said:

Here is my 1936 Brilliant Buffalo proof, and I do not see loss of detail myself. What am I missing? I surely agree about the deep mirroring as this is one of the most deeply mirrored proofs I have seen. I just do not see loss of detail, but I could be wrong. 

 

 

Here's my '37 with a little more detail I think. It's a superb coin Pf 67 CAC.

On 4/23/2022 at 3:54 PM, Hoghead515 said:

My neighbor went to trade days and  just bought a box of around 500 world coins in flips . Its got piles of coins we cant identify. This is one that caught our eye. What is it and whys it say U.S. on it? Thank you for the help. 

Here's a few my Dad left me. Twenties and the ten Centavos ring like silver but they're not coin silver I don't think. Redbook doesn't say but the Peso rings well.

Just noticed NGC has graded a few Thomas Jefferson Dollars as DPL. Also a few Richard Nixon DPL's as well but don't know if they are cameo or not.

Only thing good I can say about my uncirculated set is that some are semi prooflike but of course none are cameo. Just waiting for the next new coin I guess. What do you think it will be ?

On 4/15/2022 at 3:04 PM, VKurtB said:

Big honkin’ empty wavy fields of nothingness. 

Some have those thoughts but it has been said that 1971 die preparation was the last of its kind that started in 1950. In other words with proof strikes there was intended cameo appearance with pickled dies that were polished to create heavy contrast. Gasparro engraving and design execution may have been the last of its type with the finer known proof examples I find stunning. See the registry sets of silver proofs, one of which is mine.

Try sending proof Ikes to NGC bet you won't get one 

On 4/7/2022 at 2:28 PM, VKurtB said:

Brett Irick has been bugging me to come up since I got certified to judge exhibits in two more classes. I hear the exhibits are a big deal at Central States. But so many shows without an unlimited budget for travel. My closest gas station is at $3.74 this morning, but that only gets me the first 425 miles. 

Least you won't need to plug in along the way !

Just remember that if you ship USPS Registered they will always know who had it last (and who will lose their job if the package is not found)

On 4/8/2022 at 8:01 AM, jtryka said:

Last year I had a submission that I sent registered and although the post office showed it was delivered after a week or so, it did not show up as having been received at NGC in my submission tracking.  I came to learn that when there are long backlogs, NGC will sign for the packages and store them in a secure vault on site until they have the capacity to open the packages and log in the submissions.  At that time it was a big backlog time and might have added a couple weeks to the process.  I haven't had this issue with my last submission last month.

Yep me too

On 4/5/2022 at 10:35 PM, Just Bob said:

How does it compare to wheel weight metal?

Linotype is probably the hardest lead/tin alloy available. Usually Antimony is present in small quantities as well. By the way Lyman cast bullet manual shows 9 lbs. wheel weights and 1 pound 50/50 bar solder is referred to as #2 alloy which was considered the most common bullet alloy. Roger sorry to derail this thread, I'll stop here.

On 4/3/2022 at 3:34 PM, Hoghead515 said:

Never used it before. Is it very expensive?

I'm sure you can still buy it. Your finished bullet will be hard but slightly light from molds designed for #2 alloy. You won't find actual print type metal anymore but you should be able to purchase linotype alloy in ingot form I would guess.

Have been casting my own bullets for decades. Have used type metal (linotype) for best results and castability. This alloy is hard to find anymore but I have a small amount left though. Melts at around 685 F but pours best around 725 F.

The Government always acts suspiciously because they are SUSPECT

Certainly minor scratches or even dings could be acceptable with a wear grade coin I think. 

Something I should know, sorry