Just Bob

but my "don't bother responding to this poster because of his attitude" list is growing longer by the day. I know that I was a newbie once, and I certainly made my share of bonehead posts - and still do, I suppose - but it seems like we keep getting people on here who: (a) think that nearly every coin they run across has to be some some sort of special strike, experimental finish, error, or variety, or (b) think that they are right, and everyone else is wrong, and that they are more knowledgeable than people with many more years of experience than them, or (c) think that, since no one agrees with them, then everyone besides them either has a huge ego that prevents them from admitting that they are wrong or don't know, or is out to destroy their dreams, or (d) can not accept constructive criticism or correction without getting defensive, or (e) have gone off their meds, or are over self-medicating, or (f) lack basic social skills

I wondered the same thing..

This particular seller, centsles, has been mentioned more than once over the years - here and ATS - as a seller of problem coins. He/she is best avoided.

I agree with this being the O-116 die marriage. Nice coin, too. There is a good attribution site that I use, since I don't have a copy of Overton. Here is a link to the O-116 page

If you are really curious about this, you might want to try collecting as many examples of this date/mint mark combination as you can find, and compare them. Take pictures of them, making sure the coins are all aligned the same, and crop them like Patrick did, to make it easier to compare them side-by-side.

Franklin Lafayette Riley, Sr. founded his mercantile company in 1867, in the town of Hebron. When the Gulf and Ship Island railroad made plans to come through, he donated land for the right of way, in exchange for the rights to put the depot on his land. He moved his mercantile and bank to the new location, and called the town "New Hebron." His store was the department store of his day, selling food, clothing, farming equipment, school supplies, medicine, etc. He died in February,1907. His son, F.L.Riley Jr., is listed as principle on November 25, 1904. He was a professor and author, and died in 1929, before the date on these paper tokens. It is unknown who was proprietor when these were issued. The following is a sample of entries from a 1903-04 ledger that was found in one of the Riley warehouses: W. P. Benson, 1 bridle , $1.50 Will Hutchins, 14 yards calico, $.84 E. M. Riley, 1 U. S. history book, $1.00, 1 grammar school geography book, $1.25, 1 practical arithmetic book, $.70 Emma Berry, 53 bushels of corn, $39.75 J. R. Lane, 1 pr. Pants, $1.75, starch $.05, 1 washpan, $.05 O. M. Armstrong, 1 axe handle $.25 Henry Izard, 1 pr. Ladies shoes, $2.00 Philly Payne, 1 sewing machine, 20.50 L. M. Lane, 1 gun, $5.00 U. S. Berry, 1 well bucket .60, 1 well pulley, .30, 1 bottle turpentine, .10 W. J. Lee, sugar, .50, 1 bottle quinine .15 Baker Sullivan, 12 ½ lbs. bacon, $1.50, 1 plug tobacco, .10 Frank Newsom, 2 horse collars, $3.00 J. J. Berry, a bottle castor oil, .25 D. D. Berry, 21 lbs. cheese @ 15 a pound, $3.15 Fred Garner, 1 barrel of flour, $7.00

I obviously do not have the coin in hand as you do, but, if I were going to make a judgement call based on the photos you have provided, I would call it "cleaned and re-toned." By the way, "Blue Indians" were very controversial not that many years ago. If you are interested, I am sure there are several threads here and ATS that you could find on the subject.

How did dies for Matte Proof (or any other type besides "brilliant") differ from normal production dies?

I couldn't help but chuckle, seeing the awards announcement ranking right up there with Christmas and your anniversary. I am glad your family is doing so well. After what you guys have been through, you deserve some good times.

The 2013 Roosevelt looks like it has been subjected to intense heat.

I imagine all of these coins would be eligible for certification, although I think none of them would be worth the cost. All appear to be worth only face value.

Is there not some software to block these spambots from posting this stupid stuff?

This is the response I got back from the seller after I contacted them about the fake Morgans: Dear Friend,Thanks for the message.Sorry to say that they are unbranded, but the same with the one shown in the photo.But the quality is guaranteed.Any more questions are welcome.Best regards,Melody Anyone want to wager that English is not their first language? Not that that really means anything evil, but it does let me know that this is likely a foreign seller, and that increases the likelihood that they are not concerned with (or familiar with) our Hobby Protection Act.

Two of the listings have been removed.

Ebay seller petermhutch-0

They have the typical "Chinese Fake" look. Can you post a link? I would like to see what else this seller is offering.

Strange. I responded to this thread last night, but my response is not here. I wonder if I forgot to click "Submit Reply." Any way, the coin has lots of abbreviations. The rough translation is "George the Fifth, By the Grace of God, King of All Britain, Defender of the Faith, Emperor of India."

Sometimes, when a letter, numeral, or other part of the design is weak or missing, it is the result of "grease" or some other substance filling in the recesses of the design in the die, which prevents the metal of the coin from filling all of the recess. This is usually referred to as a "filled die" or "grease-filled die." In the case of Lincoln cents, one of the highest parts of the design on the obverse, Lincoln's shoulder, is opposite the motto, E PLURIBUS UNUM, and the words "STATES OF" on the reverse. This sometimes resulted in insufficient metal to fill all of the letters, leaving some of them weak or missing.

Before anyone offers an opinion or explanation - why do you think it is minted on a dime planchet?

Great giveaway! Merry Christmas!

I agree. Nice circulation find.

Good luck. Let us know what it grades.

In the case of your two coins, "FS" means two different things. As stated above by JKK and Coinbuf, the "FS" on the nickel refers to "full steps." And, as JT stated, the "FS" on the Lincoln refers to the variety, and stands for "Fivaz-Stanton," the names of the authors of the "Cherrypicker's Guide to Rare Die Varieties."

Nice present.