Just Bob

It's a Spam post, trying to get you to click on the link. It's been reported.

Years ago there was a guy that posted ATS, and possibly here, that would offer to plug holes in damaged coins. Full disclosure, no attempted deception. He did it just so someone could have a better looking example for their collection. I saw some of his work, and it wasn't half bad. I don't remember his name, and I don't know if he's still around, but I will give you the names of a few long time members, and maybe someone can tag or PM them and see if anyone who remembers him will respond. (Sorry. I don't know how to tag people on here.) MarkFeld, gmarguli, Messydesk, AlexinPA I think Rodger Burdette and James Garcia were both posting ATS back then, too.

Why would you want to "run up the price?"

Pigeonman, your 1893 s has that typical Chinese fake look to it.

What's up Crawdad? How have you been?

You may be right. Everything this member has posted lately has been a fake. Since he/she does not seem to be interested in trying to purchase real coins, there definitely could be something nefarious afoot. I certainly won't be responding to any posts, and, I hope others will refrain from giving too much detail in their replies.

Well done!

That little guy has been through so much in his short lifetime, as have all of you. I hope he is back to 100 percent health very soon, and you all have a wonderful, stress-and-sickness free holiday season.

If the pictures are any indication , that coin must be a blazer in hand. Any estimate on the number of survivors in each denomination?

I can't say this comes as a surprise. It seemed to me it was just a matter of time before this happened.

Congrats!

These look very "white." You could be seeing residue from a dip that was not completely removed. How is it going with sorting through the "hoard?"

Hard to tell what is going on from the pictures. Remember: if the die is doubled - the only kind of doubling worth a premium - every coin struck from that die will have the same doubling. That means there are possibly hundreds of thousands out there. The odds are that a coin that has been in circulation for over 20 years with significant doubling would have already been discovered. That is not for certain, because new varieties are always being discovered on older coins, but the chances are slim. Here is a link to the known doubled reverse dies for that year/mint mark: Click here. Compare your coin to the ones shown. See if it matches any of them. In addition, here is a picture of an overlay for the Lincoln Memorial cent. This will show what to look for when trying to determine if your coin shows die clashing.

Actually, JT did answer your question. You asked the value; he replied with his opinion of one cent. The fact that you don't like his answer doesn't mean he didn't answer you. As for your coin, it does appear to have been struck through grease on the upper part of the reverse. If that added any value at all to a cent that worn, it would be minuscule. I can't make out any evidence of die clashing in your pictures, either. The rest of what you see looks like either damage or is the result of very worn dies, including the doubling that appears on the date and elsewhere.

Have you tried a specific gravity test?

I always keep any silver that I find in change. It doesn't happen very often these days, though. I will either sell it as junk silver one day when the price is right, or give it to a YN.

Yikes! That is an awful looking fake.

Thank you for the clarification.

Oh, believe me, I completely understand that the market is totally different than it was years ago, and I take that into consideration when viewing, buying, or even participating in "Guess-the-grade" threads. We have pretty much gone from assigning a "grade" to assigning a "value."(edit: I wrote that line before I read your quote of Brian Silliman above. Apparently, I understand exactly the current form of grading ) It certainly isn't my ideal, I think that much is obvious, but I am smart enough to know that I have to accept the current state, if I want to participate in today's market.

I'm sorry, but I do not understand what you mean by this statement. Maybe I am using the term "empirical " wrong. I am using it to refer to an observation or statement based on evidence that is verifiable through experiment or documentation. Are you saying that collectors do not require verifiable standards or evidence to back up the grade of their coins, or am I totally misunderstanding?

Actually, it has a very legitimate connection to reality. It is the way ANACS graded before NGC and PCGS came along, and it (in a slightly modified version) is the way NGC currently grades Ancients. I agree that it is not the way that the US coin market currently operates, and it definitely is not an idea that seems to be popular with many collectors or especially dealers, but to say that it has no connection to reality implies, at least in my mind, that it is something Roger invented. Here is a question for you, Kurt, to which I would love to get a non-judgemental, non-sarcastic, honest answer - either here on the forum, or elsewhere (like maybe over a plate of ribs at Dreamland barbeque in Tuscaloosa): what is it about a grading scale based on empirical standards that does not appeal to you? It seems to me that a set of standards that remain constant over time, consistently applied, could be nothing but beneficial to the hobby.

Fake

It is not a doubled die. Worth a few cents only. Keep looking

My mistake. I apologize for putting you on the spot.

If we are talking about glass, I use Cerium Oxide. Here is a link to just one source. There is a " how to mix & how to use" tutorial at the bottom of the page. Link here