MatthewDM11

@Coinbuf I agree.

I wish I was more prudent and took pictures of the coin prior to sending it in. I will do that moving forward with PCGS. The thing that frustrates me the most is that the coin didn’t have pvc or grime or toning or anything that would prevent graders from seeing signs of cleaning prior to conversation. I purchased this coin at an estate sale in a nice holder. The strike and details were clear.

@Sandon Thanks for your input. It is very helpful for me going forward.

Hahaha very true

I wish I took a before picture. The coin was not dirty or grimy or anything like that… the whole thing is so bizarre to me.

Well, at least I am not alone

Yeah… I don’t know why they would require me to pay more to have the coin graded then stick me with an UNC Details grade… The only thing I can think of is NGC arguing that they didn’t know it was cleaned until they “conserved it” but that doesn’t make sense. The coin was not grimy or dirty in any way… I wouldn’t send it a dirty coin expecting them to grade it. There is no reason they wouldn’t have been able to make that determination prior to charging me for conservation.

NGC did me really dirty I sent in a submission to NGC and a few weeks later I got an email that read in part: This email is to inform you that there are one or more coins on the NGC submission listed above that have been recommended for NCS conservation by NGC's graders. Please review the attachment for detailed information on the coins that have been recommended for conservation. If grades are not provided, conservation is required for the coin(s) to be encapsulated, otherwise the coin(s) will be returned raw (not encapsulated) and grading fees will still apply. I responded with the email telling them to go ahead with the conservation and charge my card on file. I just got the coin back. They graded it as UNC Details - Cleaned. I just got off the phone with them, it was not a mistake and they are not willing to refund me for the conservation fee. I am really pissed off about this and canceled my membership. I am relatively new to all this, am I out of line here? Does this kind of shenanigans happen often and is accepted by the community?

I did! I made several submissions and have been happy with the results. The only gripe I had was a 1942-P came back graded 67+ but no FS designation when it clearly is FS. Fortunately when I sent it in for a regrade, it came back with a FS grade. Here are my two favorites that I got back.

I am really confused. I am new to this forum, what do you mean? edit: Nm, I just read his post. Wtf, that is so weird he would go through the trouble of changing someone’s post… I am thinking it might be some advanced bot.

I gave Quintus Arrius my word, so I didn’t have a choice! To be fair, it would have been much harder to give an update if the regrade didn’t go my way. From the moment I saw this coin in hand at auction I was enamored so I was very happy for it to receive the designation I felt it deserved. Super happy for it to be a permanent part of my collection.

Thanks! I genuinely think it was a close call.

Fortunately the regrader disagreed. Just got the regrade results. 5FS. https://www.ngccoin.com/certlookup/6484899-001/67/

As promised, here is my update: https://www.ngccoin.com/certlookup/6484899-001/67/ I saw it was in quality control/finalizing status this morning and have been checking every couple minutes since. Just got the good news a couple minutes ago. Obviously I am extremely happy the regrade went the way I believed it should. Even though this coin now correctly having the “5FS” designation assigned to it greatly increases it’s value, I am not going to sell it. It truly is a beautiful coin and it will be passed along to my future children.

It is a change of about $275 to $1300