Just Bob

The way the denticals are affected, it looks like postmint damage to me. Pretty token, by the way.

Another theory as to why coins have flattened edges and thick rims is that they get caught between the inner and outer drums of a commercial clothes dryer, and the constant rotation against the two surfaces produces the same effect as spooning - hence the name "dryer coin " You can find lots of pictures by searching that term also. By the way, I don't think the above Roosevelt fits in either of these categories. That coin looks like it was either forced into a bezel or other encapsulation, or caught in some kind of machine that wore down the rims. The outer edge is not flattened the way a spooned coin would be.

Do you talk this way in real life, or is this "forum speak?"

Are you adding world proof like coins to your collection, or just the world coins minted in the US?

The majority of coin related videos on Youtube are designed to get views and not to educate. My suggestion is to stay away from Youtube for now, until you are able to discern the difference between click-bait and legitimate educational videos. Please do not get in a hurry to start dropping money on coins. That could be a huge money losing venture. I would suggest buying a "A Guidebook of United States Coins," available at most book retailers. The prices may not be current, but you can use them to see how coins within a series are priced compared to others. I would also suggest taking a look at Great Collections and Heritage Auctions, two sites that sell certified coins by auction. There, you will be able to look at lots of pictures of coins and compare prices among different types, years, and grades. Of course, the best option is to look a lots and lots of coins - in person. When it comes to buying coins, the old saying "education is key" has never been truer.

From 1965 to 1970 the Kennedy half was minted in 40% silver - a core of .209 silver/.791 copper clad with outer layers of .80 silver/.20 copper. This created an edge that is silver on the outer edges and darker gray/silver in the center. The copper strip did not show up until 1971, when the composition was changed to two layers of copper-nickel bonded to a copper core. The mint also coined the silver clad halves in 1976.

I don't think you have a coin. The raised rim on one side, with the other side being flat or slightly convex, and with the appearance of something having been removed from the center, brings to mind a Victorian era metal button.

While it is possible that NGC really did "do you dirty," the more likely scenario is that they saw something that they felt was damaging your coin - possibly PVC, as others have suggested - and, in removing the contaminant, uncovered signs of cleaning.

Welcome to the forum. As a general rule, the only time off center strikes (involving both sides of a coin) or mis-aligned die strikes ( involving only one side of a coin) are worth a premium is when the design or lettering runs off the edge.

I do not. Although information about the company's crimes is plentiful, information about the token is not. I can't even find a picture of one online.

Back to tokens: For over 60 years, the Mississippi Phosphate company, manufacturer of diammonium phosphate fertilizer, polluted the water and air around Pascagoula by allowing acidic leaks and runoff to leach into nearby Bayou Casotte, and by spewing sulfur dioxide into the air. After many bouts with the EPA and other government agencies, the company filed for bankruptcy in 2014 and closed its doors, leaving behind 700,000,000 gallons of polluted wastewater for taxpayers to clean up. After pleading guilty to felony charges of violating the Clean Water Act, the company agreed to give 320 acres to the Grand Gulf Estuary. Definitely not one my state's proudest achievements.

Although tokens have historically been mostly made from metal, they have also been made from shell, Bakelite, Vulcanite, cardboard and wood, among other materials. Wooden nickels and novelty pieces, while not actually tokens, still fall under the category of exonumia, which is what this thread is about. Although "tokens" was specifically stated in the thread title, medals, doubloons, coupons, and other forms of exonumia are welcome here. Now, let me address the above post and comments, some of which have since been deleted. Political satire and political views have long been subjects addressed by tokens and other forms of exonumia. There are pages of political Hard Times and Civil War tokens in Rulau's book, for example. Following in this spirit, I do not object to members posting pictures of tokens, etc. which are satirical in nature, regardless of which political party they favor or satirize. Those who find them objectionable are free to report them or ignore them as they see fit. But I have to ask: where do we draw the line? If we remove the above post, must we also remove all posts which picture anti - Andrew Jackson or anti-Daniel Webster pieces? What about pro-Union tokens? Do we remove them so as not to offend Southerners whose ancestors fought for the Confederacy? Keep in mind that the forum rules state that "all users agree that our web site may expose you to Content that may be objectionable or offensive," What offends one person may not offend most other people. That appears to be the case here. I have a feeling that if the above piece had satirized George Bush or Donald Trump, the reaction would have been different.

I will add one thing: I really dislike when cutsie names are given to clashes and other die issues - like "Bearded Liberty" or "Spitting Eagle." I get why it is done. It is easier to recognize a coin by a name than it is by a description. If I say, "clash of the eagle's wing on the reverse, showing to the right of the portrait on the obverse," it may be hard to picture the coin. But, if I say, "Bugs Bunny," everyone knows it is a Franklin half. I also understand that these names sell coins and TPG labels. I just don't care for them.

Wrong. The rules to the thread are that you post the same type as the coin before you, or the same date. Morgan Dollars were being posted, and Larry posted a cutout Morgan. Same coin, so it follows the rules. It is no different than when I posted a dateless off-center Roosevelt dime when Roosevelt dimes were being played. A Roosevelt is a Roosevelt, and a Morgan is a Morgan, regardless of whether or not you can see the whole coin or the date. A blank Morgan planchet would have been just as much in agreement with the rules. Sorry, Jason. I hope Michelle recovers quickly and without any lingering cancer.

No. An interesting clash will catch my attention and might make me more likely to buy a coin. I don't, however, specifically seek out die clashes any more than I do other die states.

It looks like damage, to me. Keep in mind that these coins go through bins, bags, and counting machines, before they ever get put into rolls. That's a lot of opportunity to contact other coins, etc.

There is a distinct difference in appearance between contact marks and friction rub, in most cases. I'm not sure I can accurately explain the difference in appearance, and sometimes it is hard to tell. I know - I've been fooled more than once. The only thing I can say is continue doing what you're doing: looking at lots and lots of coins.

It depends on who's grading it, honestly. I've seen "cabinet friction" and "slider" used interchangeably. Market grading would allow for a coin with rub to be low Mint State. In my opinion, though, wear is wear, whether it comes from rubbing back and forth in a cabinet, sliding across a countertop, or rubbing against another coin in someone's pocket. Once the luster is gone from the high points, it isn't truly Mint State anymore. My opinion, of course.

Also called "cabinet friction."

Yep. 80/20 silver/ copper outer layer bonded to a core of .209 silver/ .791 copper. Works out to 40% silver/60% copper. If you look at the edge of a half minted from '65 - '70, you can see the slightly darker colored core.

Are you sure? Maybe he should post some more pictures just to be on the safe side.

The silver clad halves did not have a copper colored band around the edge. If your coin has that band, it is copper nickel clad. End of story.

I'm getting older and uglier, unfortunately. Be careful over there on the comic boards. Those guys are completely nuts!

I appreciate the attitude that you have, polite sarcasm included. Many posters get offended immediately when we give opinions about their coins that do not line up with their expectations. That is normally followed by a few snide remarks or accusations of jealousy, and some members immediately respond with sarcastic or demeaning remarks of their own, sending things in a quick downward spiral. I am glad this thread went in a different direction. I always enjoy posts in which people can give differing or opposing opinions and remain civil - even humorous. I will add my own assessment, as well. As others have said, I think the doubling is strike doubling, which is not an error, and I think the coin is AU. I do hope I am wrong on the last part, though, and it comes back with a nice MS grade. Good luck, and welcome to the forum. (If I haven't already done that)