Henri Charriere Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 On 10/31/2023 at 8:01 PM, J P M said: Hundreds of collectors crack coins ,That is why a true account of coins would be imposable. I am painfully aware of that but has no one heard of an audit? What's the point of maintaining a tabulation apparently started in the previous century if it fails to serve a specific purpose. It's gotten to the point where members have to rely on another individual's instinct or institutional memory. This isn't rocket science. The technology is there. It's the will that's lacking. zadok 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rrantique Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 Rod D. and Lem E 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lem E Posted November 5, 2023 Author Share Posted November 5, 2023 Got this 85 proof today and when I entered it into the system the reverse image was a Morgan. I thought that was kinda funny. rrantique 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powermad5000 Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 On 10/31/2023 at 4:00 PM, Henri Charriere said: General cold hard question: Are collectors ethically obligated or otherwise duty-bound to return inserts of crack-outs to TPGSs, or has the census become too far askew in the years since to matter? I shall provide my opinion as an opinionated answer to your question. From my point of view on this, from the TPG's standpoint, once that slab has been broken apart, the label no longer applies as far as the NGC guarantee goes. The coin is guaranteed genuine and certified with that grade by the graders at the time it was put into the slab and sealed. Once cracked out, as far as the TPG is concerned, the coin would have to be regraded. As far as notifying the respective TPG that the slab no longer exists, in a perfect world, everyone would do this and the census figures would be 100% accurate. But we know we do not live in a perfect world. The census figures, while maybe not being 100% accurate, are to me an indicator however of all things typical or average : average graded values, average amounts of a particular coin and type floating around in the wild. I use those numbers to get an idea of how difficult it might be to get a certain grade for a certain coin, by the total amount being submitted, and the grade having the highest amount of graded examples. If coin X shows 238 graded at MS 62, 589 at MS 63, 341 at MS 64, 112 at MS 65, 32 at MS 66, and 1 at MS 67, it tells me when I look for coin X raw and find it in MS state, it is most likely to be a 63 or 64 and I should examine it for that range and start preparing myself to pay a commensurate amount. It also tells me when the seller Joe Bob who has coin X that I am interested in is asking to get the price at 66, that I will be more inclined to walk away faster upon examination of it. Henri Charriere and Lem E 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powermad5000 Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 On 11/5/2023 at 12:39 AM, Lem E said: Got this 85 proof today and when I entered it into the system the reverse image was a Morgan. I thought that was kinda funny. Then I could only guess there is a Morgan obverse image paired to a proof nickel reverse somewhere else out there. Lem E 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J P M Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 On 11/5/2023 at 1:39 AM, Lem E said: Got this 85 proof today and when I entered it into the system the reverse image was a Morgan. I thought that was kinda funny. I have seen this coin before. When I bid on a coin I look it up before the bid. A few times I have found . Half's and Morgan's on the reverse Lem E 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henri Charriere Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 To the Editor: Yes, my previous content was restored, provisionally -- more times than I care to recall -- but, as now, it dissipated into thin air as soon as my back was turned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post Lem E Posted November 13, 2023 Author Popular Post Share Posted November 13, 2023 I picked up this 47 D/D piece recently. This is the only RPM that NGC recognizes listed as VP-001. CONECA lists this as RPM-001. You can see the first impression peeking out of the bottom of the second punch with the second being punched slightly counterclockwise. According to Variety Vista there are 2 more RPMs listed for the Denver pieces from 1947. According to the various variety sites this is also listed as a DDR. I am certainly no variety expert by any means and I have really looked this coin over. I did find the one die marker they show which is this very small die gouge. The rest of it I just don’t see. Sometimes I wonder how they come up with some of these. Guess that’s why I’m not much on this doubled die stuff. Here are a few links. http://www.varietyvista.com/05 JN RPMs/1947DRPM001.htm https://www2.briansvarietycoins.com/listings/view/1595 https://www.conecaonline.info/jefferson-nickel/jefferson-nickel-1947-d-rpm-001-denver/ The Neophyte Numismatist, powermad5000, rrantique and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sandon Posted November 14, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 14, 2023 I purchased this 1857-O Liberty Seated half dime that PCGS graded MS 66 (and to which CAC awarded a green sticker) at a local coin show last month. The dealer gave me a substantial discount from most list prices, but it was still, for me, a sizeable purchase. My own photos of it didn't do it justice, and I finally figured out how to resize the PCGS image so that I could post it here. rrantique, Lem E, powermad5000 and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henri Charriere Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 Congratulations on your 700th post! There are an awful lot of extraordinary examples posted here which cannot be easily accessed elsewhere. And thanks to @Buffalo Head for the fine assist! Great thread! Lem E 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lem E Posted November 14, 2023 Author Share Posted November 14, 2023 On 11/13/2023 at 8:52 PM, Henri Charriere said: Congratulations on your 700th post! There are an awful lot of extraordinary examples posted here which cannot be easily accessed elsewhere. And thanks to @Buffalo Head for the fine assist! Great thread! Congratulations to you for being that 700th post! I need to get some more coins to Joe for imaging. Henri Charriere 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post Sandon Posted November 17, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 17, 2023 1868 proof Shield nickel, PCGS graded PR 64. CAC awarded a green sticker despite the coin having several small green corrosion spots! PCGS photos ldhair, J P M, rrantique and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post Sandon Posted November 22, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 22, 2023 1877 proof-only Shield nickel, the key to the series by date, PCGS graded PR 63, which I acquired from the August 2021 ANA Convention auction. This coin was catalogued as having come from Q. David Bowers's own collection and is quite attractive for the relatively low grade, which is probably due to some light reverse hairlines. powermad5000, Rod D., Lem E and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post rrantique Posted November 24, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 24, 2023 (edited) Edited November 24, 2023 by rrantique Henri Charriere, Lem E and powermad5000 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post Lem E Posted November 27, 2023 Author Popular Post Share Posted November 27, 2023 Here is the latest add to the Jeff collection. powermad5000, J P M, R__Rash and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powermad5000 Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 Very nice @Lem E! Lem E 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post J P M Posted November 30, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 30, 2023 (edited) The newest piece for the set. Edited November 30, 2023 by J P M Lem E, powermad5000, R__Rash and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post Lem E Posted November 30, 2023 Author Popular Post Share Posted November 30, 2023 Companion piece to the 82D posted a few days ago. This one has some toning to it. rrantique, powermad5000, J P M and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post J P M Posted December 1, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 1, 2023 I have been looking for a 1958 in MS66 for a while now. They always go fast and for a high price. This MS 65 came up, so I grabbed it there are only 36 graded higher at PCGS and none above MS66+ powermad5000, rrantique, Lem E and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lem E Posted December 2, 2023 Author Share Posted December 2, 2023 On 12/1/2023 at 5:51 PM, J P M said: I have been looking for a 1958 in MS66 for a while now. They always go fast and for a high price. This MS 65 came up, so I grabbed it there are only 36 graded higher at PCGS and none above MS66+ Big star coin. Nice 👍 powermad5000 and R__Rash 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
