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Why are you getting the coins graded? There are several legit reasons people have coins graded including increasing the value, authentication, ease of resale, and to use the coin in a registry set. For increasing the value the coin generally must be worth several hundred dollars just to hopefully break even. There is very little chance that a modern clad coin without a valuable variety is counterfeit and ease of resale is not a concern with very low value coins. In addition, for registry sets with modern coins you are usually better off just buying the coin already in a grading service slab. About submitting coins to increase value the key is being able to roughly grade the coin yourself first in order to look up values. There are many topics on the forum concerning how you get started doing that. That 1979 dollar coin would not be worth much even in uncirculated condition, which I don't think it is, so you would lose money submitting it. https://www.ngccoin.com/price-guide/united-states/dollars/52/ You are probably just looking at listings with ridiculous asking prices. Go to the advanced search to look at sold listings, keeping in mind that the old adage of "a fool and his money are soon parted" sometimes applies.

Please ignore this advice to go to ebay listings to look for grading examples, as the images are almost never high resolution. Stick with grading examples on CoinFacts or PhotoGrade, or some of the better known auction houses like GC or HA have high resolution images with the listings. How do you know that? Simply since you didnt clean it doesn't mean it wasn't cleaned by someone in the past, and some collectors in the past regularly "wiped" their coins.

I recall either seeing or there being a post on something similar about a year ago. But it may have just been a fake mule without a side seam. Or don't buy individual coins from Goodwill.

Just based on that I could have said there is a 99% chance it was just click-bait inaccurate or misleading info unless it was something from ANA or one of the TPGs.

So much for being thrown the bag of peanuts from a distance (you got razzed about if you didn't catch) and passing the cash down the row of seats. Unless people now pass their card down the row.

Some may not realize that there are allowances in the ANA grading standards for certain unevenly struck Buffalo nickels with details having weak spots (7th Ed, p125). There are a number of years and mintmarks noted therein, which includes the op's 1917-D 5C. https://www.ngccoin.com/coin-grading-guide/grading-buffalo-five-cents/

A possible reference to silver plated things like jewelry that has nothing to do with coins, but more likely what happens to your hair when you get older. They are not likely to give detailed answers on how they detect cleaning on specific coins which might make it easier for some to better hide the signs. But the following NGC article may help in general ... https://www.ngccoin.com/news/article/1337/Why-Cleaned-Coins-Cannot-Be-Uncleaned/ That is just about the best advice anyone could provide on this issue. One of the most difficult things for me to get a handle on when I first got more serious about collecting was to develop an eye for when a coin just doesn't look right, whether from it being a counterfeit or from cleaning. It just takes time and repetition.

I haven't been to a Mets game in a while and was curious about the peanut and hot dog vendors who roam the stands. Did they get rid of those people, or do they now carry card readers?

Please disregard any comments which may lead people to be fooled into thinking you can read a few linked articles about counterfeits and look at some genuine examples to identify more deceptive fakes or plow ahead buying raw coins that are not in grading service slabs. That would be doing a disservice to those reading that. There are some very deceptive counterfeits, including ones I have encountered that were very difficult to identify after a very careful in-hand review with die marker references, particularly for more valuable coins like an 1884-S Morgan Dollar being discussed here and in the following NGC article. NGC Article: "Superfake" 1884-S Morgan Dollar While you could post some photos of the coin to see if there are any obvious signs of it being a counterfeit, that won't provide a definitive answer. I think you have received some good advice to bring the coin to a local coin dealer to have them look at it and possibly submit for you.

I agree with others that it looks like the coin is damaged from a coin wrapper machine, which is not a mint error. If you want more info about this coin, including values and what one in "great condition" would look like, see the following link. NGC Coin Explorer 1964 (P) 25C

Even with a centralized digital currency issued by the government, however unlikely that is to occur any time soon, I agree coin collecting will not be going anywhere. Who knows, maybe to some future generation modern coinage of our time will become rare and valuable "ancient" currency.

The mint spec for a 1969 1C would be 3.11g +/- 0.13g, so even considering wear it would be likely under spec on weight it that weight can even be relied upon given the type of scale you are using. Also, when was the last time that scale was calibrated with a known weight? But even if the blank was punched from a slightly thinner sheet that would not be a significant mint error. As previously advised you need to put away the scale and scope and look for real errors and varieties.

You would likely get more help starting your own thread.

That's the key! Even minor errors or varieties these days are listed on sites like varietyvista.com or doubleddie.com since the single-squeeze die making and newer post-strike procedures at the mint to eliminate variations. Seems like the mint is really intent on putting error/variety collectors out of business. However, many of these are not recognized by the big boys (e.g. not listed on NGC VarietyPlus).

Nice! Don't you have other "Omaha Bank Hoard" coins [besides the 1964-D above and 1964-P mentioned], or am I thinking of someone else.

I assume thats an MS graded nickel, so to me the less well defined steps, except on the far right side which is a little more defined, would indicate a 1939-S 5C Rev 38. [P.S. I also see a slight curve in the steps drawing a box around that on LemE's nickel which is another indicator for a Rev 38, unless that is just an optical delusion.]

This has got to be in the top 10 most ridiculous things he has said.

You mean they way you submit your Etsy/eBay flippers to verify the authenticity and attribution, just so you can get better photos for presentation?

There are a few errors or varieties such as some of the mules where it is believed by some to have resulted from "mint mischief" by a bored midnight shift crew, but I can't imagine the OC second strike you mentioned was intentional. I believe at that time the mint simply filled large mint bags, such as a bag for $50 of cents like the attached, from large bins at coining presses by using an accurate large scale. So if just one coin, or in this case a pair of coins, had an error like that it may not be discovered at the mint, and was part of the reason for the changes Sandon noted. It was probably discovered at a bank or by a "bag hunter" when going through that since there is a corresponding pair.

I still enjoy looking for minor issues and varieties while roll hunting, but I don't share them here or submit them. And maybe one day I will find that diamond in the ruff, but that's okay if I don't because I'm not expecting to find that. I know you don't roll hunt so it's not likely you could get that it is interesting looking to others.

Perhaps that has changed now that "the pandemic is over".

More of the same here from MM (Misinformation Master). I think he needs a cape with that on it, along with "MM" monogrammed toilet paper to flush along with his reputation.

Interesting question, particularly for coin collectors. I don't think a true cashless economy would ever occur without a centralized digital currency. Maybe in a futuristic movie, but there are too many people who think cash is king or wouldn't trust the government with a move towards a centralized digital currency thinking it would be in order for them to track and tax all transactions. Look at the opposition and uproar over the Biden administration's proposal to require banks to report all transactions, not just suspicious ones, over a smaller $500 or $600 amount.

I don't think there is any confusion about that. The only reasonable explanation for dprince1138 discussing counterfeits of a modern business strike issue common clad coin that is likely only worth face value is an attempt to prop himself up in support of his very shady practice of buying garbage raw coins on Etsy and then flipping them on Etsy/eBay by slapping on a variety without doing a proper authentication or attribution to fleece less knowledgeable collectors. He is constantly making off-topic or inaccurate posts about counterfeits and varieties, and it has gotten so bad one person asked for the entire topic to be deleted because it was being hijacked. He has even started two topics about these garbage raw coins from Etsy that he is flipping, refused to answer reasonable question related to that, and even provided a link to purchase the garbage Etsy/eBay flippers in one of them. It really doesn't paint this forum or NGC in a good light, and I think the only question is how long NGC and @Administrator are going to allow this to continue.

I think you can start with going through the Red Book and looking up any terms you don't know in the glossary in the back, or the excellent NGC Glossary that Powermad linked. You can also check out the following topics ... https://boards.ngccoin.com/topic/428817-resources-for-new-collectors/ https://boards.ngccoin.com/topic/430263-basic-resources-glossary/