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Me too.

What do you see wrong with these pictures?

The NGC price guide value of $3.50 is for a standard MS62 quarter. Generally errors are not given a value since they are one off coins and there is no real “guide” to go by.

Anyone else notice they forgot to put the D on the end of capped?

Wasn’t impressed with Genos. Didn’t get a chance to try Pats, but Jims was really good.

I could send it to them and it would be corrected. I have no doubt about that. The fact is that it is still going to be the wrong coin. I thought I had a very tough slot filled. It is a very nice coin. Just the wrong reverse. I will probably send it to be fixed one of these days and then maybe they can correct the population numbers as well.

Aside from a few coins from another website, my whole collection has been bought from ebay. I have a lot of reputable sellers I deal with and it has worked out well for the most part. Everything is slabbed though. I have bought some raw stuff from ebay, but I knew that I wasn’t looking for coins to submit. They were basically purchased to simply see the coin in hand. I am still fairly new to the hobby and haven’t seen or been around coins as much as a lot of the members here. I don’t have a great story of coin collecting as a kid or anything like that. As for the other question, no I didn't get my money back because I didn’t notice what I even had before it was much too late to send it back. I took the info on the label for granted. That’s on me. Lesson learned.

Thanks. I appreciate the heads up. I don’t trust anything raw on ebay. If I went the raw route I would definitely have to see the coin in hand and under a loupe. Especially when it comes to differentiating the 2 reverse types. I have seen several people claim to have one reverse and it is the other. I was burned by a mislabeled slabbed coin that said it was a 39P REV of 38 (pop 2/1) and it turned out to be a REV of 40 coin which is much more common. So that pop of 2 is actually a pop of 1 and the other isn’t correct. Makes me wonder if any of them are correct. That was an expensive lesson and that’s when I became well versed in telling the reverses apart.

The second coin I posted has a sub# of 207281. I thought I had seen that # and apparently you did too. I’m going to have to assume it is in a gen 9 or a little higher holder. It’s just a little different. I’ll have to find that Conder thread again.

I believe I have limited myself a bit with only looking for NGC graded examples. My set is all NGC and with me being the consistency weirdo that I am, that’s what I look for. The pops are fairly low for the 39Rev40. 66 66+ 67 5 FS 9 2 3 6 FS 5 0 1 There are always more submissions and higher pops ATS and they may not be quite as scarce, but like I said I’m looking for an NGC example and there are not many to chose from. If I can find a raw example and submit myself I will if that opportunity presents itself. Worst case scenario is find a PCGS example and do a crack out and resubmission but that would be extremely costly to do. I hope to fill that slot along with a few others that have been elusive. But hey, the fun is in the hunt right?

That is strictly my opinion. I have seen it debated back and forth. I have no concrete evidence on any of this other than what I have actually seen with the coins I own.

This is the other coin that I think may be associated with this hoard. Sorry I don't have a slab shot at the moment. Looks a lot like the other one though don’t you think?

I have to say for as beautiful as my example is in hand, I am in the AT camp. I have seen and own quite a few toned nickels and these just have a look like no other. Mine is quite tame compared to a lot of other App coins I have seen. I have another App coin that I believe is from a later submission. Different holder and no T designation, but it has the same type of toning and did receive a star desg. The 2 coins I have look very similar. At one point in searching for info on this hoard I came across another set of submission #s that are supposed to be connected and my coin had that #. If it is or isn’t an actual App coin I can’t say for certain. It is actually quite difficult to find much info on these. Most of it comes from coin forum threads. I’m not sure how these are valued either, but I would have to assume that the more wild the toning gets, the higher the price goes. Especially if they are in the original slab and of course a higher grade. I’m not really sure how many of these coins there are. I think they are not limited to war nickels either. I have seen a 50D that was claimed to be from this hoard and it had a submission # that lines up.

Thanks I appreciate it very much. He is not on here too much anymore, but @lehigh96 knows more about these coins than anyone else I know. Actually, he is the person I bought my example from and he has or had many of these coins at one time or another. I believe he has one for sale right now. https://www.ebay.com/itm/175283900406?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=4CzNv2-YTIG&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=j9LjZZhwTEm&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

I believe that most of the coins from the App hoard were housed in the gen 8 holder and many of them had both the star and the T designations. They were graded before the use of the full step designation. This is the one I own below. Here is a link to an informative thread. I have read another thread about these but I can’t seem to find it right now. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwimocnK5cH5AhVMj4kEHdjMCoUQrAIoA3oECAkQBA&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cointalk.com%2Fthreads%2Fthe-ngc-t-w-designations-the-lost-designations.208532%2F&usg=AOvVaw1bd4DOD7VrJdqUd2ZXE7-x

If I were to build a war nickel set, I would go for a minimum grade of 67 5FS coins. It can be done for a reasonable amount. The tougher date/higher $ coins will be the 42S and the 45 P & S coins. The 43/2 will be a bit of a different story if you so choose to include this in your set. NGCs basic war nickel set requires this coin for completion. I just watched a NGC 1943/2 67 5FS coin (pop of 4) sell on GC a few weeks ago for a little over $3K. You may have to lower your standards for this slot. I know you have at least one pretty high grade war nickel already right? Thats a good start. Whatever you choose to do I wish you the best of luck and hope to see some nice nickels from you.

Yes the book is The Jefferson Nickel Analyst by Bernard A. Nagengast. This really is THE reference book for Nickel collectors and anyone who collects early Jeffs should know who he is and read this book. Light blue cover with AMAZING cover art. These are the 3 reference books I have. The Red Book guide is also very good. If you read the Red Book guide you will notice very quickly that Nagengast is referenced quite a bit. The Doubled Die book I don’t use much because varieties and errors are not really my thing. However, it is an excellent book with tons of varieties listed. If you are into Jeffs with varieties, I recommend collecting early proofs.

I thought about this as well. You would pretty much get the best of the best for early nickels and would include the entire war nickel set.