GBrad

Hey guys. Thanks for the “likes” on my previous 1967 Jefferson!  I have the others, 65 and 66 year models, that I may post as well if I can muster up some decent pictures. Considering I only gave $2 bucks for each SMS, I think I did pretty well (or did I….?). I am totally new to buying coins and just getting my feet wet so to speak. Based on the pic of the 1967 above, can you possibly give me your best estimation of a grade. I’m thinking no less than MS67 basing it off of Photograde comparisons. As I said earlier, the center of the reverse is much better than it looks  in my pic. Hard time these days taking good pics til I get a better phone. Thanks again!!
 

On 8/23/2021 at 6:10 PM, Just Bob said:

Must be a regional thing. I was raised in the South, and I never heard of putting sugar on grits until I was in my thirties. Sugar was for oatmeal or cream of wheat. Grits were, and are, eaten with salt and pepper, maybe crumble up a little bacon in there, or even mix it in with your fried egg.

(I also don't say you'uns or pronounce sugar as sugah. That is a regional thing, too.)

Grits are good no matter how they are prepared.  I prefer sugar (or sugah... ha...that's the exact way my now late 'Southern' father-in-law pronounced it) but salt and pepper is also excellent. Bacon is excellent in them too, or as far as that is concerned, bacon is great no matter what it's on or just by itself.  

I was joking about the pronunciation of the words in my post.  Just trying to play around with some old southern verbiage which us "Rednecks" (yes, must be a regional thing) still like to play around with.... .

On 8/23/2021 at 6:02 PM, Mohawk said:

Glad to hear the situation was resolved to your full satisfaction!! I may have to see if L&C has an ancients selection.............

Thanks Mohawk!  Just from what I’ve seen online, they do seem to have a tremendous selection of all types of coins. Not sure about ancients but please do check them out. I don’t give out many “kudos” at all simply from my background in life. But…. I am more than willing to promote those individuals, and businesses alike, that truly deserve it and L&C deserves it.  Thanks. 

On 8/23/2021 at 4:06 PM, VKurtB said:

When traveling on I-81, grits disappear northbound beyond about Martinsburg, WV. 

On 8/23/2021 at 4:33 PM, Just Bob said:

Since you didn't grow up with them, I have to ask: Are you a sugar, or salt-and-pepper kind of guy?

If uins is from the south...... thar ain't nuttin better than Suga in yo grits!!!!  Oh my..... I grew up on them.  You guys are making me want to go to Waffle House right now and eat a few bowls!

Well... I returned my 2000 ASE S$1 to L&C Coins a few weeks ago with no questions asked.  Just got my replacement in the mail today.  I am overly pleased with this one. Can't say enough good things about Kevin at L&C and their customer service.  If only all businesses were run in this manner........ Good job Kevin and L&C!

On 8/23/2021 at 1:26 AM, Woods020 said:

My guess would be 1926. The obverse seems to have been worn abnormally. The rims shouldn’t be worn that much without more wear on the obverse in general. In this shape it’s worth silver spot value essentially. 

My guess too.  Definitely looks like a 6 on the number in the date with heavy circulation wear especially on the reverse. The rim on the obverse has encroached on the T and Y of LIBERTY in my observation of your pics. Possibly a dryer coin......not likely as I'm not seeing any rounded edges,.... or just a very heavily circulated Mercury showing it's age and wear. 

Just want to thank everyone for the comments on my 1983 Kennedy Half PR69.  I truly appreciate it.  I honestly can't put it down to stop looking at it.  It's that beautiful to me personally.  I'm happy to share it with you all.  Thanks!!

On 8/22/2021 at 7:26 PM, J P Mashoke said:

So how was the show????

Hey J.P.  The show was really good. I have only attended a few shows in my entire life, never attended the FUN show in Florida which I hear is massive, but the one here in Dalton. GA was by far the biggest I have ever attended. I think they quoted 300+ tables at this show but after walking by 10 or 20 tables I was hooked. I spent most of my time looking through Lincoln and Jefferson albums and picked out a few raw keepers there. Several Jefferson SMS’s from 65, 66 and 67 along with several 1943 Steel Linc’s. The Jeffersons I think I really scored on…. The 43’ steels I’m not so sure at this point. If in fact, one of the 1943’s Philly’s hasn’t been wizzed…… then it is a remarkable coin. Just not sure yet but I have my doubts. Haven’t broken out the Jeffersons yet from their 2x2’s but I will later tonight or tomorrow.  
You may have already read that I met @VKurtB there. Helluva good guy. Helped me out on some much needed knowledge and a Morgan purchase as well. Maybe not a “BIG”show by some other’s standards but for North Georgia, and for me, this was the junk (that means good….😁)

Here's the 1983-S Kennedy Half PR69 DCAM (a beautiful clad might I add) I received a few weeks ago from L&C Coins (already slabbed).  They have been an absolute pleasure to work with and I will definitely purchase from them again in the future when I save up some more play $$$.  Once again, this is a 1983 year which has some meaning to me and my family thus the reason for my admiration of coins dated 83'.  Just a beautiful coin all the way around, I'm very pleased with it, especially the price.  I think PR69 is a bit conservative on this one, thinking it should have at least achieved a +, but then again, I'm not a grader.  Not a blemish anywhere on this Half as far as I can see.  Sorry for the rough pics. Couldn't get a good pic of the fields due to the glare from the blinding mirror finish.  My best and newest iPhone I previously used for good quality pics died awhile ago and now I'm stuck with an older model...... oh well, could be worse.... 

Come on page 667!........ I'm going to keep posting until this topic gets to the next page!!! I ain't kiddin!!!! I didn't go to church today and I should have!!!

On 8/22/2021 at 2:18 PM, 124Spider said:

Careful--buying a few Morgans at a local coin shop (raw coins, common dates, in pretty high grades for just above silver value; just because I wanted to own a few silver dollars) was what reignited my coin collecting.  To me, there's still nothing like a silver dollar, and I now own 85 distinct Morgans (and still buy one a month, or so) and all 24 Peace dollars (relatively few of my silver dollars are in mint state, and none above MS64+).  I'm poorer, but I just love looking at them in their albums (or slabs)!

I will say this, based on what I spent on my two Morgans, taking into account what silver melt value currently is (which is NEVER going to happen on my end with these babies) and then add in what TPG fees would amount to for slabbing of these coins..... I am fairly certain I came out well ahead in my purchase(s).  

Just noticed the page number this entire thread is currently on   ...... YUCK!     Someone hurry up and make a bunch of posts on this topic so we can get to page 667....!!!!!

On 8/21/2021 at 11:36 PM, VKurtB said:

YIKES! I just looked up what a 63 goes for in the 1883-S. ¡Ay caramba! Maybe Brad needs to pick up a nice 1881-S instead. 

SHHHHHHH!!!!! Demmit........

On 8/21/2021 at 9:38 PM, VKurtB said:

My coolest newp was a 1787 George III shilling, which I shall slip under the ol’ microscope tomorrow, and a very nice 1951 proof shilling still in original packaging, but cut apart from the rest of the set. Remember, 1951 was special. That was the year of the Festival of Britain, and many are aware of the nice Crowns struck that year.

Hey... I saw this coin with my own eyes, in hand, at the show.  Not a friggin clue what I was looking at (yes, I'm starting show my ignorance at this point concerning worlds...) but it was the oldest coin I have ever had the opportunity to hold (in the flip it stayed of course) and it was a really beautiful piece no doubt.  Thanks for allowing me to see and hold that beaut!!!

On 8/21/2021 at 9:28 PM, VKurtB said:

I told Brad he could advance his journey through the world of Morgan dollars by assembling an all mints set of Morgans of the same year. Since he already had the Philly before we met, and he was looking at several dates for his next purchase, and one was the 1883-O you see above, I recommended that as #2. The 1883-CC is fairly affordable compared with other dates. All mints have a different look. I don’t remember off hand how dear the 1883-S is. But studying closely all the mints and the subtle differences thereof, is an education in itself. 
 

Serious Morgan guys can tell which mint is which without even having to flip them over. I’m not there yet.

Yes….. Exactly what @VKurtB told me!  Thank you! 

Hello AliciaB and welcome to the NGC forum. Your coin pictured is definitely a large date as numerous other very educated collectors have noted.  Copper small date Lincolns are somewhat abundant (at least here in the Southeast and maybe I take them for granted) but I was wondering why you are "On the lookout" for a 1982 Copper small date?  There is only one type of 1982 Copper small date that is extremely rare and that is the Denver minted copper small date 1982. All Denver minted 1982 small date Cents were supposed to be made from the new Zinc cored planchets but less than a handful have been discovered that were struck on a copper planchet.  Maybe this is what you were originally implying about looking for but it was not explained in your opening post. My apologies if this is what you meant.   

On 8/21/2021 at 6:49 PM, Quintus Arrius said:

@GBrad. This is highly irregular but @VKurtB must have seen something that warranted his no-axe-to grind, third-party intervention. Personally, there is a great argument to be made for Mint-State 63 acquisitions -- of a coin he is not even known to actively collect.

Not sure QA. All I know is VKurt was overly accommodating to me and he is obviously lightyears ahead of me in numismatic knowledge even regarding a denomination he may not specialize in, I don’t know. What I do know is that he helped me out. What I purchased was VERY inexpensive, fit my budget (which is pretty much nil..) and I believe he thought I did pretty good for my first time buying some “middle of the road” Morgan’s. I explained to him “I just wanted some graded Morgans…. Just to have so that I could further my knowledge about grading “with coin in hand” as opposed to looking at pics online” and I am very appreciative of his involvement in my transaction. Maybe he did see something, don’t know. Had a great time searching through one of the hundreds of dealers albums looking at some pretty incredible raw Lincoln’s. Bought several 43’ steelies which, if I’m correct, should punch out in the upper MS grades. And the best thing is they were ridiculously inexpensive. Also acquired an SMS Jefferson set (individually picked) from 1965,66, and 67 which I am pretty excited about as well. They are absolutely beautiful. 

On 8/21/2021 at 1:10 PM, Jason Abshier said:

Just ask where is VkurtB. They will give you a look like . who ? Never heard of that name before..  Either that or @VKurtBmight easily recognize you by your avatar Bigfoot @GBrad

Headed there as I type. (Don’t text a d drive…). Is kan mak y o mispell werds!

On 8/20/2021 at 5:45 PM, VKurtB said:

Right now I am killing time at the ANA table at Dalton. Will be back tomorrow. I’ll be here from 10 to 3-ish tomorrow, Saturday. VERRRRY U.S.-centric show. Not great for World coins, but some. 
 

All the dealers are really helpful and courteous. Now I have to choose a grub source. 

See you tomorrow!  If your forum avatar pic looks anything like you I will find you. I really look forward to meeting you. 

On 8/20/2021 at 12:49 PM, Jason Abshier said:

@GBradeven coins that been red and slabbed for over 10+ years started turning brownish that’s why TPG doesn’t guarantee copper coinage anymore . When you look at a 1909 v.d.b and say geesh ! How heck it stay bright red ? Or Indian head cent looks pretty red ? How is that ? Storage methods back then isn’t even compared to storage methods we have today even with intercept shield technology copper coins been know to still tone … Although I’ve read silver tone faster than copper that somewhat I agree with … only time I’ve seen red natural cent were in original bank wrap rolls usually in middle they are red (that’s more modern coins 1930s and onward today) not a 150 year old coin 

I agree about the 150+ year old coins and I'm not even collector of them (but I do enjoy looking at and learning about them) but I can't remember the last time I saw a copper that old that was still a brilliant red.  And yes, I have often wondered how even a Linc. such as a 1909 can still be a nice Red??? How in the world, even in a slabbed and purported "air tight" holder (which they didn't even have during that time period) can a 100+ year old copper Linc. still be blazing??? Copper just can't do that IMHO. 

@VKurtB..... Not to change the subject here (but I believe I just did..) I assume you are on the way to Dalton since you're not currently online? Thinking about heading there today maybe but I will be there tomorrow for sure as of now.  

On 8/20/2021 at 11:55 AM, Jason Abshier said:

@GBradive heard some guys that could turn a Lincoln cent back red , I don’t know how they do it , but I’ve seen enough red Lincoln cents and some Indian cents to be suspicious . I don’t even think coin conservation can even take a brown Lincoln cent back to red with out turning it pink first then letting it naturally turn back to an orange red or without adding humidity and heat ?… some of the copper coinage I’ve collected over the year (like the last photo I posted of 1864 german Baden 1 kreuzer to me it looks it may have been dipped one time long ago it’s naturally toning back) it’s orangish colored to me not your typical look of copper but again its just a photo I’ve seen photos make coin look awkward color but when I get it in my hand its more of light brown color … Purplish color on copper coins usually is some form of over cleaning or dipping perhaps ? . I’ve heard of people dipping copper in coin dip then boiling eggs smash them up and put boiled eggs on one side of container and the pink copper cent on other side cover the container with a lid in few hours the copper coin will start turning brownish … I’ve heard some strange methods over the years 

That would actually be pretty ingenious if there was a way to turn a brown back into a beautiful red without any signs of having been done so.... but then again,,,,, does that border on the lines of dishonesty?? I'm not sure... each to his own but I'm not sure if I see any harm in doing so but then again I have never tried.  It's not like you are counterfeiting anything, you'd just be reviving the color of the copper.....Hmmmm... But I have never heard of a true and valid way of doing this without it being fairly obvious and as long as aged coppers have been around you'd think someone would have ultimately come up with a way to do this.  

On 8/20/2021 at 9:44 AM, TheOhioPlayr~Stamps said:

Which transition 1982 cent would you say is the rarest?

By far the most rare 1982 Lincoln Cent would be the Denver minted  SMALL date COPPER  Cent.  There were more changes made to the Cent in 1982 than at any other time in the history of this series.  Take some time to read up on the changes during this year. Way too much to explain here......