Fenntucky Mike

The photos are too out of focus to see much of anything other than what looks like damage from circulation. 

A severely damaged and corroded cent, nothing more. 

On 4/30/2024 at 2:13 PM, conscoins said:

Actually yes. The ESC looks to be 1983. It isn't listed as a pattern coin in the ESC--as claimed by the KM#--it's listed under Bank of England dollars (those created by Matthew Boulton). It's given the rarity R3 which, from what I understand, is very scarce at 201-500 known. Maybe this is just something I need to send to NGC.

That lines up more with how the coin in the OP looks, it not being a proof pattern. 

The piece still looks off to me and not well struck.  

It looks like there are parallel lines running through the fields and details on the obv., are those stains/toning or are they features. 

EDIT TO ADD:

I see that @coinsandmedals replied to your other post, he would be more familiar with a piece like this than anyone else here and I'd take his word on whether the piece is authentic or not.

Does not have the look of a proof to me, seems like a fantasy piece or knockoff.

Is a similar piece listed in ESC?

On 4/26/2024 at 12:34 AM, Trennaavalos89 said:

This coin has a weight of 5.3-5.4

A regular weighing no more than 5.7 I believe.

Nominal weight for a clad quarter is 5.67g with a tolerance of +/- .227g. (5.897g - 5.443g). For the amount of wear and tear that the coin has seen, it wouldn't surprise me if it was under tolerance slightly due to metal loss. 

On 4/26/2024 at 12:34 AM, Trennaavalos89 said:

Don't quote me on that but that's what my scale said

Get a new scale, one that reads to at least two decimal places. 

Possible lamination error. Seems ok.

Interesting, I had not heard of this before.

The only question I have is how much zinc needs to be present in the plating for it to be considered an error? If only based on color then your opening a can of worms. 

I would also assume that this is fairly common. 

EDIT TO ADD:

It wouldn't surprise me if TPG's won't authenticate this type of error anymore.

A "retained" strike through, or whatever adjective you want to use, has been around for a long time. It's just that most are not significant enough for anyone to care about them. 

The OP's cent is not a doubled die and I see no evidence of a strike through on either the cent or ASE. 

I hadn't realized, or forgot, that the font was changed on the T-2 ASE's. Hideous. 

I have never requested NCS conservation but when NGC recommends it I've always approved it and have never been disappointed. Acetone won't remove all surface contaminants, I soak most of my coins in acetone for 24hrs or so and they come out looking better but not like after NCS conservation. Maybe if I placed the container on an agitator/orbital shaker or had a fountain the acetone soak would net better results, something I'll be trying at a later date.  I also, mainly, collect modern World coins which often don't have all of the pitfalls of U.S. coins like old cleanings, AT, and the like. 

To the OP's question, no, there is no way to tell if a coin has gone through NCS.

Always nice to find some silver. 

On 4/23/2024 at 3:47 PM, Haley87 said:

Maybe you guys can help me out- I bought this coin off an individual cause honestly i hadn’t seen anything like it before, does anyone know if there’s more with some of same errors? And how did these errors even come to be? Like two diff dates? I don’t Know much about the coin making process but it seems two diff dates wouldnt be assessable just to prevent such errors occurring. Any info or opinions would be greatly appreciated! 

Welcome to the Forum.

You have a mutilated cent, not an error, return the coin and get your money back if possible. 

On 4/22/2024 at 6:58 PM, brasscoins said:

I sent a text to H.A I asked them a question about a brass plated zink coin they sold at auction. Why is a brass plated zink coin considered an error, when the coins in the copper, bronze, era, if the mix wasn't quite right kicked out tons of brass coins that are not considered errors. What's the difference?. To date they have not answered my text. 

Link to the auction listing please. 

It's back up for auction, at Sedwick's this time. Let's see how she does on the second go around with a change of venue. https://auction.sedwickcoins.com/item.aspx?i=52420824

Opening bid 7k, estimate 10-20k.

The Saskatoon Coin Club is one of my favorite websites.

Nice find. 

I'd try to find one in the OGP but if you could pick up a PF 69 for a lower cost I'd maybe consider that. 

Looks like you can buy a PF69 on ebay and the OGP for less than the original selling price from the U.S. Mint. What!?

The coin Jason posted is Pridmore 290, below are two, supposed, authenticated examples of Pr 291. They are a much closer match to the OP's coin, that's not to say that the OP's coin is authentic, or any of the other coins posted for that matter. 

Letters and numbers on the coin below look spindly compared to the PCGS coin with stems missing from the wreath, could be due to polishing but the upper loop of the "6" seems to be missing similar to the OP's coin.

The coin below was pulled from an auction in 2023. Why?  This coin exhibits full, or nearly so, details as opposed to the other two. 

Auction description:

"KM-Pn35; Prid-291. A laudable and interesting Proof Hong Kong emission, Pridmore relays that this example is a Mule Pattern Cent, with the reverse of Prid-261 being paired with the obverse of Prid-288. The overall appeal of the example is only increased by the proof nature of the strike, with fully formed and crisp details and rims, with a fair amount of mint red being retained. Light tone even adds a touch of character, making this Pattern one that is certain to capture many excited bids."

Which if any are authentic? I'm not familiar with these at all but only one of the three is of the quality I would expect for a pattern of this type. 

How many ways can a coin be damaged? The world may never know.... 

On 4/9/2024 at 6:58 AM, Patman54 said:

Is it specific for this year not to have a number on it?

Yes, it is a one year type and they made a boat load of them. 

On 4/8/2024 at 7:33 AM, tonyzz said:

@Fenntucky Mike I thought about this too, that the picture could create a kind of visual illusion and that it's in fact a drill cavity on the reverse creating a protuberance on the obverse. But when doing the coin alignement experiment, we can see the two anomalies are not perfectly aligned, what could eliminate this theory isn't it?

Looks like two drill marks to me, one on each side. You can see where the drill bit or tool walked on the obv and both sides have what appears to be metal displacement. The alignment, meh, who knows. Damage is damage, doesn't really matter how or why.

Looks like a drill mark. PMD.

On 4/7/2024 at 2:33 PM, Zebo said:

  A total of American gold dollars weighing 58,979.94 ounces were melted in Melbourne during 1925. Possibly all from the transfer mentioned above. The Melbourne Mint archives should have additional information on this melting. This amount was recorded in the Royal Mint reports and the information was provided to the Royal Mint by the the Superintendent of the Melbourne Mint.

I assume that by "U.S. dollars" it is meant any U.S. gold coin, presumably double eagles. It would be interesting to know what U.S. gold was exchanged, type and date, but it's highly unlikely such information was recorded.