Mohawk

I've been told I'm brutal on Morgans, so I'll just watch on this one and see how brutal I am.......  I don't want to be a coin jerk.

Agreed with Conder, Greenstang and Jonathan.....weird toning all the way.  I've seen many cents with that coloration myself.

As do I.  It's hard not to love a big, old copper coin.  I recently picked up a couple of Roman Sestertii for my Faustina the Younger collection.  They're already two of my favorite coins I've ever purchased.  I'd say for more recent copper, the British coppers are the best of the bunch.

Welcome to the forum.
Mohawk is right. People who collect for Registry points, or to have something before the rest of the community does, do not mind paying extra for their coins. And, there is nothing wrong with that approach, so if that is what you like, then go for it. Just don't expect those prices to remain high once the market becomes saturated and/or the newness wears off.

We have all learned lessons the hard way I am sure.
Me I am an avid fan of buying high and selling low  - not a good business structure  heheeh
Take care and
Good luck  

Hi again Carl,
There used to be a five coin minimum for submitting moderns, but there isn't anymore.  You can send 1 coin or 100 and you'll be fine.  However, I don't know if NGC has special instructions for the Pride of Two Nations set because the coins are from two different countries.  Typically, NGC does not allow you to submit US and non-US coins on the same invoice but I'd imagine they'll make an exception here.
I hope that this helps!
~Tom

It's okay Maul.....I've had my share of 's myself.  And at least your helped Bob out.  I don't think any of mine have helped anyone.

Thanks! Just got them this morning and will open the box when I get home. 
I also heard about the 2019 W 1C. Ugh. 

Oh, I didn't mean to imply I'm not old school with my collecting.....I am.  I'm really old school.  The main things I collect are Roman coins from Empress Faustina the Younger and her daughter Lucilla.  I'm not a modern collector or anything like that.  I don't collect US coins at all, and I haven't since around 2010, aside for a few pieces here and there for my thematic collections of coins depicting birds and coins depicting infants.  But, I do sell US Moderns on a small scale basis to fund my own collecting.  But I sell the tried and true moderns, not the fads, stuff like 1970-S Small Date Cents, 1971-D Friendly Eagle Eisenhower Dollars, 1979 and 1981 Type 2 Proof Coinage and older proofs and SMS coins with cameo contrast....stuff like that.  So, even though I collect ancients, I am in touch with the modern US market.  Though I'm sure I could make fast money with buying the latest US Mint fads, I do not do so because I want to sell things I believe in and that have a proven track record, even if I don't collect them myself.  I also don't want to encourage the mass production of this stuff any further.  I also appreciate the artistry of coins as well.  Though I'd collect Faustina the Younger's coins no matter what because I'm absolutely fascinated by her as a person, her coins also happen to be some of the most beautiful issues of the Roman Empire.  And, since she issued coins for thirty years, you can see her start as a teen on her early coins and mature all the way to a 45 year old woman, which was the age she died at.  I'm fascinated by history myself (I have a Bachelor's and Master's degree in historical studies), but I'm just not that interested in US History.  I never have been aside from some of the history of the two states I've lived in, New York and California.  But California even loses me with that "Wild West" stuff.....I can't stand that.  Cowboys and stuff like that bore me to tears.  I'm more of a global historian and I really love the Romans and Classical Antiquity, some of the Medieval Period and the early Modern Era.  I also enjoy Modern World history to a degree as well.  So I think you and I collect different things for similar reasons, which is very cool!   And don't worry about typos.....if you hang around here (which I hope you do), you'll quickly learn that I'm the king of typos around here . 
I agree, this is a great exchange!
~Tom

That's a great comparison, Mokie and I agree with every point you've made.  Completist ASE collectors now have to acquire five ASEs this year.  I remember when I first got going in coins again in 1999, it was two: the regular bullion strike and the proof from Philadelphia.  Now it's five: two regular proofs, one W and one S, the bullion strike, the burnished and now this goofy thing.  And then there's the Maple Leaf and that's a whole other issue, as we know.  I think this is going to crash and crash hard eventually.  If I were an ASE collector now, I'd say screw them all aside from the Burnished series.......those are the sleepers and the ones that actually have some upward potential, as you aptly pointed out in your Journal.  I think that, sadly, the Burnished issue is the one that gets ignored when another gimmick ASE comes out, but they're arguably the most beautiful version of the coin.  There was a time when collectors hated the Sandblast and Satin proof US Gold coins from the early 20th Century, mostly in their era of issuance....now they're beloved by US collectors and command amazing premiums.  Though the Burnished ASE's get the least love of the whole ASE lot now, they could have their day in the future as the Sandblast and Satin proof US gold coins have.  I'm not saying that the Burnished ASE series will ever reach those heights, but if they do have their day......they're going to move up in value considerably.

Thanks for the kind reply to my thoughts, even though we disagree.  Discussions like this are part of what makes this board much better than any other coin forum around.  And you're right....only time will tell. I could be right or you could be right.  You do make a point that some ASE collectors do chase items like this, but in my experience, you guys are something of a rarity.  Many ASE collectors that I know are rapidly becoming former ASE collectors because of issues like the Pride of Two Nations set.  No matter where you are on the issue, it will undoubtedly be interesting to see how it does in the coming months.

That's a great comparison, Mokie and I agree with every point you've made.  Completist ASE collectors now have to acquire five ASEs this year.  I remember when I first got going in coins again in 1999, it was two: the regular bullion strike and the proof from Philadelphia.  Now it's five: two regular proofs, one W and one S, the bullion strike, the burnished and now this goofy thing.  And then there's the Maple Leaf and that's a whole other issue, as we know.  I think this is going to crash and crash hard eventually.  If I were an ASE collector now, I'd say screw them all aside from the Burnished series.......those are the sleepers and the ones that actually have some upward potential, as you aptly pointed out in your Journal.  I think that, sadly, the Burnished issue is the one that gets ignored when another gimmick ASE comes out, but they're arguably the most beautiful version of the coin.  There was a time when collectors hated the Sandblast and Satin proof US Gold coins from the early 20th Century, mostly in their era of issuance....now they're beloved by US collectors and command amazing premiums.  Though the Burnished ASE's get the least love of the whole ASE lot now, they could have their day in the future as the Sandblast and Satin proof US gold coins have.  I'm not saying that the Burnished ASE series will ever reach those heights, but if they do have their day......they're going to move up in value considerably.

I am with Mohawk on this, although there are different finishes for both the ASE and Maple Leaf collectors, it is becoming too much and the market is starting to yawn.  This reminds of my days pursuing comic books when all of a sudden DC and Marvel decided to maximize their profits by placing different covers on the same issue of comic, in some cases, over 10 different covers for the same exact content.  At first they were red hot but a year later and to this day, they are worth zero premium over a regular issue with a single cover.  The Canadian issue with different packaging (being the only difference) might do better since they only made 10,000 but in the end, they will not become investment grade material.  My rule for all US Issues of the last 10 years, wait a year and pick it up for half price. 

Agreed.  A partially grease filled die would easily explain what we're seeing with this cent.

As do I.  It's hard not to love a big, old copper coin.  I recently picked up a couple of Roman Sestertii for my Faustina the Younger collection.  They're already two of my favorite coins I've ever purchased.  I'd say for more recent copper, the British coppers are the best of the bunch.

This may be a good place to point out that Youtube is full of videos that are loaded with error and misinformation.

On this one where I marked with red lines under the mint mark and next to the two. Where it might seem like Doubling however, you can also the corrosion (what would be the term for the corrosion?) build up and I suspect that the buildup traveled underneath the lamination raising it giving the illusion of doubling. 
In conclusion I now agree with @CRAWTOMATIC  and @Mohawk on stippling. 
 
Wow, this was a fun little project. 

For educational purpose, here is a picture with the blisters. I circled a cluster but you can see more throughout the coin. 

When do the Dena autographed holders come out?

Well you can believe I'm not buying any. I have rolls of 62, 63, and 65 waiting to go through. But there are so many known DD's that idew start. I did have nearly an entire roll of 70D that have severe breaks in the head area as well as various other places and Lamination Errors, at least two major breaks and some other error on each coin. One even has a break the splits off like tree branches. I guess it's a good thing I like that kind of stuff. I feel like the Queen of LAMs. Lol! Plus Nickels are great. My most odd finds are on Nickels.

I really think anyone who buys rolls of 2009 nickels or dimes at those prices is going to be very sorry one day.  The mintages aren't that low, they're only low in the context of a modern US coin.  There are Jeffersons from the 1960's with similar mintages that I see in my change all the time and that are very low value in uncirculated condition.  I have no reason to think that the 2009's will be any different.

Have you contacted the person who sold you the coin?  IF they have any scruples they will work with you. If not, then out them here if they are an eBay seller so we can all learn from your experience. I lost $880 on a 1916s Indian Eagle two months ago. I sent it in to be graded and got the "Not Genuine" tag. So the cost of the coin AND shipping and grading fees added some salt to the wound.  Most of us have paid our dues but some just can't admit it.   Good luck in your future acquisitions.

There's nothing wrong with that at all, Karen, especially since there is no NGC Photograde...yet.  There are plenty of people here who use both NGC and PCGS services and applications and the NGC board isn't the PCGS board.....you won't get banned for mentioning PCGS here

Oh gosh. I'm just happy to hear you smile.

Agreed!  I would have likely screwed that operation up like you wouldn't believe (tools and I tend not to get along well.  My fiancee is the handy one in our relationship).  I'm very impressed!