Just Bob

Did anyone else notice that the coin description gave the composition of aluminum as "95% copper and 5% zinc?" And all this time I thought that was the composition of brass. Shows how much I know, I guess. 

Did anyone else notice that the coin description gave the composition of aluminum as "95% copper and 5% zinc?" And all this time I thought that was the composition of brass. Shows how much I know, I guess. 

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As Greenstang said, there is no Full Step designation for Lincoln cents. Strike weakness on Lincolns tends to show up in "STATES OF."

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There are many members here who know much more about tokens and conservation than I, and I suspect that you are one of those. You certainly don't need my advice. But, since we both have been put on the spot, and since you asked, I will respond with some advice that I was given years ago, for the benefit of future readers of this thread.
The following quote is compliments of Conder101, responding to a thread in which I had asked for suggestions about conserving a token that I had bought:
"Looks like active corrosion. Might try a soak in an oil based product such as olive oil, mineral oil or blue ribbon, then use a rose thorn to remove any loosened corrosion product. You may have to do a few cycles of soak then thorn. (The thorn is also good for getting any dirt or "crud" out from around the devices, it is soft enough it should not scratch, strong enough to dig out the crud, and comes to a small enough point that it gets into the smallest places.)
 
Then use acetone to remove all of the oil and to throughly dry the token. (one thing the corrosion need to work is to water and the rough area of the corrosion will hold onto water molecules very well. The acetone gets in there and "dissolves" out the water and carries it off. It acts as a drying agent.) After the acetone you might want to then apply a very thin layer of blue ribbon or mineral oil to the token to seal out moisture from the corrosion area. (The oil fills the nooks and crannies in the corrosion keeping the water vapor in the air out of them.)
 
Now the corroded areas will still look rough and pitted but it should look better than the active corrosion and will help stop it from getting any worse."

Happy Birthday! 

It looks like it could be DDO-002/FS-102, with some die wear,  to me. 
Nice pics, by the way.

There are many members here who know much more about tokens and conservation than I, and I suspect that you are one of those. You certainly don't need my advice. But, since we both have been put on the spot, and since you asked, I will respond with some advice that I was given years ago, for the benefit of future readers of this thread.
The following quote is compliments of Conder101, responding to a thread in which I had asked for suggestions about conserving a token that I had bought:
"Looks like active corrosion. Might try a soak in an oil based product such as olive oil, mineral oil or blue ribbon, then use a rose thorn to remove any loosened corrosion product. You may have to do a few cycles of soak then thorn. (The thorn is also good for getting any dirt or "crud" out from around the devices, it is soft enough it should not scratch, strong enough to dig out the crud, and comes to a small enough point that it gets into the smallest places.)
 
Then use acetone to remove all of the oil and to throughly dry the token. (one thing the corrosion need to work is to water and the rough area of the corrosion will hold onto water molecules very well. The acetone gets in there and "dissolves" out the water and carries it off. It acts as a drying agent.) After the acetone you might want to then apply a very thin layer of blue ribbon or mineral oil to the token to seal out moisture from the corrosion area. (The oil fills the nooks and crannies in the corrosion keeping the water vapor in the air out of them.)
 
Now the corroded areas will still look rough and pitted but it should look better than the active corrosion and will help stop it from getting any worse."

Welcome back to the forum.  It's been a while.

On August 3rd, 1938, Mssrs. H.J.Wilson, D.A. Graves, and H.H Parker filed a record of charter to form the Copiah County Building & Development Co. in Hazlehurst, MS. Its stated purpose was to, among other things, " buy, own, lease, and operate lumber yards,"  "buy, sell, and exchange wares and goods," and to "buy, own, sell, and lease timber and timber lands." 
On March 23, 1943, an amendment to the charter was filed, changing the name to Graves, Inc.
In addition to the $0.25, $0.50, and $1.00 tokens shown, a $0.05 token was also issued.
 

History by Gil Hoffman:
On June 5, 1901, the May-Easterling Lumber Company, composed of Felix A. May and E. H. Easterling, purchased the timber holdings of C. J. Gray, at Ora, Covington County for $30,480. 
In March 1902 Felix May and other small stockholders sold their stock to F. C. A. Denkmann and associates, of Rock Island, Illinois. E. H. Easterling, president of the May-Easterling Lumber Company, remained with the company.
The company was reorganized as the Easterling Lumber Company, with sales office at Rock Island. The assets were transferred to the Easterling Lumber Company on May 5, 1902, for $75,000 cash. 
On June 5, 1917, the mill property was sold to the Tallahala Lumber Company, of Ellisville, Jones County.
 
All of these tokens, with the exception of the $1 and $2, are common. There is also an octagonal $5 token that is very rare (probably only two, or maybe three, known to exist.) 
I kept the same setting and distance for all of the pictures, to give an idea of the relative size of the tokens.
 
 

I purchased this token recently off of eBay after reading that these were used in the mint in their break room vending machines. They weren’t allowed to carry real coins in their pockets and they had to use these instead. I haven’t received it yet, these were the auction image. I’m probably going to soak it in mineral oil to get rid of the verdigris and crud. 

DED is not as catchy as DDD. Proper acronyms are very important in numismatics. 

DED is not as catchy as DDD. Proper acronyms are very important in numismatics.
It seems that in recent years everyone who writes a book or creates a website about varieties has to revise the familiar terminology to secure their own place in history.
I (and by default, NGC) still use the terms that were in regular use for decades until this practice began. That's my story, and I'm stickin' to it.

I think that is the whole problem. He already knows how the submission is going to turn out. I completely understand his frustration. He owns a coin that has all of the markers of a  high-dollar "specimen" coin, and he can't get anyone to acknowledge that it is the same coin. I would be frustrated, too. The problem, as I see it, is that all of the known "specimens" (1964 SMS) came from the same place, as far as anyone has been able to determine. So, any coin that comes from a regular mint set, or from any other source, regardless of how good a match, is not one of those coins, so, can not be labeled a "specimen." Or, at least I assume that is the TPG's thinking.  Here is the catch, though: According to Mr. Burdette, the coins labeled as "Specimen" are merely the first coins minted from new dies. That is what gives them the special look, and that is probably why they were saved in the first place. If that is the case, then it stands to reason that there are many more coins out there with those same exact die markers. Those coins will never be recognized as "specimen" strikes, because they did not come from the Eva Adams estate. ( Or Lester Merkin, or wherever they were supposed to have come from.) So, you have a case of coins that look the same, and even come from the same die pair, but some are only worth what a normal Uncirculated coin would bring, and some are worth 4 or 5 figures. The only difference is provenance, and the opinion of a grading service.
That is my opinion, any way.

You obviously didn't get the fact that Kurt was talking to Travis Carpenter when he said that. He wasn't talking to you or about you.  So, you cussed at him for nothing. 

History by Gil Hoffman:
On June 5, 1901, the May-Easterling Lumber Company, composed of Felix A. May and E. H. Easterling, purchased the timber holdings of C. J. Gray, at Ora, Covington County for $30,480. 
In March 1902 Felix May and other small stockholders sold their stock to F. C. A. Denkmann and associates, of Rock Island, Illinois. E. H. Easterling, president of the May-Easterling Lumber Company, remained with the company.
The company was reorganized as the Easterling Lumber Company, with sales office at Rock Island. The assets were transferred to the Easterling Lumber Company on May 5, 1902, for $75,000 cash. 
On June 5, 1917, the mill property was sold to the Tallahala Lumber Company, of Ellisville, Jones County.
 
All of these tokens, with the exception of the $1 and $2, are common. There is also an octagonal $5 token that is very rare (probably only two, or maybe three, known to exist.) 
I kept the same setting and distance for all of the pictures, to give an idea of the relative size of the tokens.
 
 

You obviously didn't get the fact that Kurt was talking to Travis Carpenter when he said that. He wasn't talking to you or about you.  So, you cussed at him for nothing. 

You obviously didn't get the fact that Kurt was talking to Travis Carpenter when he said that. He wasn't talking to you or about you.  So, you cussed at him for nothing. 

You obviously didn't get the fact that Kurt was talking to Travis Carpenter when he said that. He wasn't talking to you or about you.  So, you cussed at him for nothing. 

I think that is the whole problem. He already knows how the submission is going to turn out. I completely understand his frustration. He owns a coin that has all of the markers of a  high-dollar "specimen" coin, and he can't get anyone to acknowledge that it is the same coin. I would be frustrated, too. The problem, as I see it, is that all of the known "specimens" (1964 SMS) came from the same place, as far as anyone has been able to determine. So, any coin that comes from a regular mint set, or from any other source, regardless of how good a match, is not one of those coins, so, can not be labeled a "specimen." Or, at least I assume that is the TPG's thinking.  Here is the catch, though: According to Mr. Burdette, the coins labeled as "Specimen" are merely the first coins minted from new dies. That is what gives them the special look, and that is probably why they were saved in the first place. If that is the case, then it stands to reason that there are many more coins out there with those same exact die markers. Those coins will never be recognized as "specimen" strikes, because they did not come from the Eva Adams estate. ( Or Lester Merkin, or wherever they were supposed to have come from.) So, you have a case of coins that look the same, and even come from the same die pair, but some are only worth what a normal Uncirculated coin would bring, and some are worth 4 or 5 figures. The only difference is provenance, and the opinion of a grading service.
That is my opinion, any way.

You expect a MS61 to look - well - ugly. Not this one. That is a good-looking coin.
Nice newp. 

I think that is the whole problem. He already knows how the submission is going to turn out. I completely understand his frustration. He owns a coin that has all of the markers of a  high-dollar "specimen" coin, and he can't get anyone to acknowledge that it is the same coin. I would be frustrated, too. The problem, as I see it, is that all of the known "specimens" (1964 SMS) came from the same place, as far as anyone has been able to determine. So, any coin that comes from a regular mint set, or from any other source, regardless of how good a match, is not one of those coins, so, can not be labeled a "specimen." Or, at least I assume that is the TPG's thinking.  Here is the catch, though: According to Mr. Burdette, the coins labeled as "Specimen" are merely the first coins minted from new dies. That is what gives them the special look, and that is probably why they were saved in the first place. If that is the case, then it stands to reason that there are many more coins out there with those same exact die markers. Those coins will never be recognized as "specimen" strikes, because they did not come from the Eva Adams estate. ( Or Lester Merkin, or wherever they were supposed to have come from.) So, you have a case of coins that look the same, and even come from the same die pair, but some are only worth what a normal Uncirculated coin would bring, and some are worth 4 or 5 figures. The only difference is provenance, and the opinion of a grading service.
That is my opinion, any way.