Just Bob

Minting with dies and casting are, as you know, two different things, and the results are quite different when there is insufficient volume of metal. When cast, the metal flows to the lowest point of the mould, and fills up from there.So, if the coin were cast, the high points of the coin - the lowest point of the die - would actually be more distinct. Being struck by dies is different. The high point of the design is the last part to fill. Let me give an example: Imagine you rolled out some modeling clay to 1/8 inch thickness. Then you drilled a shallow hole in a wood block - say 1/2 inch diameter but only 1/8 inch deep. If you used a standard drill bit, the hole would taper to a point. If you pressed the block into the clay as far as you could, hole side down, and removed it, you would have a 1/2 diameter cone-shaped mound in the clay. The pressure exerted by pushing the block into the clay would cause the clay to flow upward into the recess, likely all the way to the tip of the cone. This represents your 1928 Peace dollar. Now imagine you drilled the hole 1/4 inch deep, but did not change the thickness of the clay. When you press the block into the clay this time, chances are that the clay will not flow all the way up to the tip of the (now taller) recess. The tip of the clay "cone" would now be flat. This is your 1921 Peace dollar.

First - Welcome to the forum. Next - understand that we get a lot of people on here who post all sorts of fanciful coins and tokens that are anything but normal, and they expect us to automatically know exactly what is going on with their coin. (Not saying that is the case here - just explaining why some replies might seem a bit testy or short.) Some pieces are fake, some are merely damaged, some are real. It takes time and, usually, several questions and lots of information (and good pictures) to figure out most of the unusual ones - and yours is certainly unusual. So, that being said, you can help us to help you by using capitalization at the beginning of your sentences, and periods at the ends. Proper spelling helps a bunch, too. I honestly am having a hard time trying to decipher what you are trying to say in your above posts, but I and others would certainly love to help you get to the bottom of this mystery. So far we have determined that there are actual Chinese fakes of 1906 cents out there, and there were also some pure nickel planchets (blanks) around in 1906 that could have accidentally gotten into the planchet bin. There is also the possibility that it could be plated. Chances are that it is not steel, since there were no known steel planchets back then, and it is not rusted (very important clue). So, the next step, in my opinion, would be to take it to someone who has an XRF analyzer, and see if they can figure out the metal content. Short of that, you could try weighing it (in grams) and posting the weight here (to the thousandths.) Obtaining the specific gravity would also be helpful, I would think. Some members here may be able to determine the metal content using that information, or at least rule out certain metals.

Bingo

Welcome to the forum. I am afraid your coin is a fake. I do not collect these, and I am no expert in Mexican coinage, but I have seen quite a few fake coins, and this one has that look.

This, or something similar.

My understanding of the minting process with these coins is that the steel was rolled out into a sheet, which was then plated with zinc on both sides. The blanks were punched from this sheet, leaving the obverse and reverse coated with zinc, but the edge uncoated. Even after the minting process, there should be a seam on the edge, where there is minimal or no plating. After circulating for a while, the coins would often corrode and/or rust, and sometimes would be replated by sellers who wanted to make them more attractive to collectors. That included the edge, which would then have no visible seam. I don't see it (the seam) in your pictures, but, you have the coin in hand, and are better able to tell whether or not it is there. That is why I said "looks to have been replated", not "is replated." Whether or not they were being replated as early as 1950 is something I do not know.

What do you think is driving the market right now?

While it is good to think outside the box, I am afraid you are grasping at straws on this one. (Wow - two metaphors in one sentence.)

That looks like a grease-filled die on the "T," and the coin looks to have been replated.

I see what appears to be a semi-close imitation of a Morgan dollar reverse (maybe), but that is the only thing that looks even vaguely familiar.

Yeah, technically it is damaged, but I think it is gorgeous.

OP. please show a picture of the edge of your 1943, as well.

Oh, ok. I remember reading about these a while back. They are caused by a rotary buffer or polisher. I don't recall ever having seen one up close, though. Don't see any "trails" on this coin, either.

Never mind. I found the auction website. Apparently, Key Date Coins is not an NGC fan. They do seem to like USCG, however.

I don't see doubling anywhere, and I don't know what a "trail die" is. Remember: there are fewer participants on this forum than most other coin forums, and that sometimes means longer wait times to get answers to your questions.

The weak STA in the word STATES, and the missing E in the motto are most likely the result of having the highest part of the obverse design - Lincoln's shoulder - directly opposite. There was not enough metal to fill both designs properly. This was a common problem on Lincoln cents into the mid 80s. They lowered the obverse design in (I think) 1984, but the problem still shows up on 1985 dated coins.

You are misunderstanding the coin composition.The coin in the story was not a minted on a 1970 quarter planchet. It was struck on an already-minted 1941 Canadian quarter, which was an 80% silver/20% copper alloy. Those Canadian quarters were not clad, and had NO copper core.Your coin has a copper core. It is NOT the same type of planchet/coin. You are not going to be convinced that you are wrong by any of us, so the following is for future readers of this thread: The Daily Mail article cited in this thread, the original Woman's World article, and any other article which hypes this coin and/or gives the impression that someone may find one of these in their pocket change, are misleading at best. The Daily Mail, especially, is known for its sensationalist journalism, which is designed to get readership, not to inform. The coin described is a PROOF coin, and would very likely not be found in circulation.The coin posted by the OP is NOT a proof coin, and is not an example of this error. The explanation by Kurt, given above - a mint employee secretly putting a Canadian coin in the planchet bin or the coin press - is a likely reason for the existence of the only known error coin.

Charles Box owned a general store and cotton gin in Midnight, MS, from 1909 until his death in 1931. His estate continued to run the store and gin until 1940. According to tradition, the town site was won in a poker game at the stroke of midnight, which is how it got its name. This denomination is not listed in the MS token book. It, and the $1, and $.50 tokens that are listed are all blank on the reverse

Great coin and a great memento. I really like the custom label.

Nah. I don't like the look of that one at all. I am calling "fake."

Welcome back :) Very cool piece. Would an 25th anniversary engraved Morgan be considered a Love Token?

I hope those scratches are on the holder and not the coin.

It isn't a "S" and it isn't silver. It is a regular copper-nickel (75% Cu, 25% Ni) piece. These were coined in Philadelphia in the spring of 1942, until they were replaced by the copper/silver/manganese coins of 1942-45.

Welcome to the forum. Coinbuf is right. It is die erosion doubling. Keep looking :)

Each of these Peace dollars is graded MS65 or MS66. All show flatness and extreme lack of detail on the highest points, which looks very much like wear. It is true that the OP's coin shows very little detail in the hair, but I believe it is merely an example of an especially weak strike, and is technically uncirculated. Just my, opinion, of course.