Just Bob

Thank you for that info. As I stated earlier, if the graders knew who submitted the coins, it may affect their objectivity. It would be nice to hear from someone at NGC on this matter, just to be sure. Has the green label venture been successful so far?

Keep us informed.

First, welcome to the forum, and thank you for joining in the discussion. Does the above statement mean that NGC graders know that the coins they are grading were submitted by your company? Or is that information just for the people handling the paperwork?

When I saw the title of the thread, and the name of the author, I had a feeling it would be entertaining. I wasn't disappointed. You gotta love crazy.

Good job on that last set of pictures. Your coin does not appear to be one of the overdates. It looks to be, as Woods stated, simply a worn Indian cent, worth a dollar or two. There is no "lion mark," and all of the other marks are just circulation marks. Ignore the white circles in the above pics. They are just showing circulation hits - nothing more. Some people see all sorts of things on coins, the same way people see shapes in clouds. It's a phenomenon called pareidolia, and it is has gotten quite common on coin forums recently.

To be honest, I can't tell anything from your pictures. Can you take a straight-on shot?

It definitely does not look like Snow-1/FS-301. On that one, the bottom of the "7" is visible below the "8." (picture below) Clear pictures of Snow-2, 1888/887 are harder to find online . In fact, I couldn't find any pictures that were clear enough to re-post, but Heritage, Great Collections, and David Lawrence all have pictures of coins they have sold. Your coin does not appear to match that variety, either. Snow-3 with the left edge of the "1" between the denticles, has been reported, but is controversial, and is not listed on the Fly-in Club site. Here is the description of Snow-2 from Rick Snow's book: " Repunching can easily be seen inside the upper loops of the 8's. The top right point of the 7 is very bold inside the upper loop of the last 8. A small die line extends out from the first pearl. The discovery specimen showed a reverse die crack extending vertically from the rim at 7:00." Link to Heritage Link to DLRC

I don't post pictures of my Roosevelt Dimes very often, so here goes one: OK - two.

That appears to be doubling from a deteriorating die. Not worth any premium, and not considered a variety.

Happy Birthday!

Welcome to the forum. Bobby is right. They are copper art bars, containing one ounce of copper each. The retail value is about $5 for nice art bars, and $2 - $3 for copper rounds and generic bars. A dealer might offer you a dollar a piece.

Those sets were produced by the National Collectors Mint, a private company that produces limited edition "collectibles" that may or may not appreciate in value. This mintage was limited to 1009 sets, I believe. The "coins" are silver, except for the cent copy, which is copper. Interestingly, the COAs are signed by Barry Goldwater, Jr., former representative from California, and son of former Senator and presidential candidate Barry Goldwater, Sr.

The seller needs to be outed loudly and forcefully. If you don't want to do it, post their name or a link here. I will be happy to let everyone know who is selling counterfeits. By the way, them selling these coins to you is against the law, if they are located in the US. I am not sure how our Hobby Protection Act applies to sellers located outside the country.

Welcome to the forum. The 1957 set appears to be proof coins which have been removed from their original government packaging, and put into an aftermarket holder. This is the type of holder that RWB was referring to, which can be bought from coin supply houses. Can you show reverse pictures of the two tribute sets? Are those pieces the same size as normal coins? Do they have "COPY" stamped on the reverse?

I am still wondering: what was the reason you did not send the coin back to the seller and have them refund your money?

They are Chinese fakes. You can buy them for $1.70 plus shipping.

Do your coins look like this? (Without the word "COPY"?)

It is just a mark that resembles a "D," as far as I can tell from the pictures.

I can honestly say that this is the first time I have ever seen an advertisement for buffalo and longhorn semen. And I saw it on a coin chat board.

Good info, Mike. Researching the towns, businesses, and people involved is one of the things that makes token collecting so interesting.

Big, heavy silver dollars, stored in bags that were moved around from place to place, constantly rubbing and scraping against other coins in the bag, tend to get more scratches and dings than smaller coins. This is just my opinion, but I think Morgans are treated differently in the grading room, because of their size, weight, and the circumstances in which they were stored. I feel the same way about double eagles. Like I said, just my opinion.

It is a joke squirting nickel. There is a tiny hole in the middle of the "O" in the word "OF." Press in on the metal part, hold the coin under water, and release. It will draw water into the chamber. Then tell someone, "look at this hole in this coin," or something similar. When they put their face close to it to see the hole, give it a squeeze, and water will squirt out in their face.

I tried to do a business search on the Michigan SOS website, and the Genesee County website, but came up empty handed. All I could find was a listing of current businesses on the License and Regs site.

Looks like they made at least three different types. http://tokencatalog.com/display_records.php?SearchString=davison&SubmitFilter=Search&SearchStringEveryWord=&SearchStringAnyWord=&ImagedOnlyOption=&action=DisplayRecords

Can I play? I'll just post a few. The first one is from the Gulf Coast. The second is from Hattiesburg. The last three are from Jackson.