Just Bob

Although there was not much in the auction that I could afford at today's prices, I would love the chance to go back in time and view the Buddy Ebsen collection. He had some amazing coins - quite a few that were finest known examples.

These could also be home made pattern tracing wheels. I remember seeing older ladies who sewed using these many years ago. 

Unless you can show a better picture, I am going to have to disagree. The picture that you are showing does not match the picture that I posted. 

You are correct. Some of the older NGC 'fatties" and PCGS "rattlers" were more conservatively graded. Notice that I said, "some of..." Not all of them would grade higher if sent back in for a re-grade. I have several MS67 Roosevelts in older holders that, in my opinion, are solid for the grade, but are not candidates for an upgrade.

As far as authenticity, I am not well-versed on these, so I won't even attempt that. 

As to the grade: If the wear was confined to the high spots that are directly opposite high relief areas on the other side, I might think "weak strike." But it seems to be fairly even across most the lettering and devices, including the rim. Put that with the numerous tics and light scratches, and I will call this one in the lower AU range.

On the other hand, if it isn't real, then you can probably toss what I said above out the window. I hope it is real. It is a nice looking piece.

Your link took me to a page that asked me to register with CONECA. Nothing against the organization, but I will pass, at least for now.

On 2/11/2022 at 7:25 AM, kerisinc said:

Ty coinbuf. And unfortunately, I do not have a microscope yet.

If you can take pictures like that with a phone or camera, you may not need a microscope. 

Your coin does appear to have some doubling - possibly strike doubling - of the date, but it does not look like the overdate. If it does not match the picture below exactly, it is not the 42/1 D.

Ebay sold prices are running $400 - $550, give or take.

These look a bit hazy, but the price isn't really out of line - yet.

Since you did not include punctuation, I am not sure if you are asking a question, but just in case you are:

NGC Price Guide - $95,000

Last 3 Heritage Auction sales - $78,000 (9/17/20) - $72,000 (1/21/21) - $69,000 (1/21/21)

I wouldn't normally click on an unknown outside link, for fear of a virus, etc., but I took a chance, and this one was worth it. Great looking coins. 

We do all understand that this coin is not real, right?

On 2/7/2022 at 12:56 PM, tejas1836 said:

I believe the customer service representative was mistaken.

The following is from the NGC website:

 

NGC utilizes numerous other designations that do not, however, constitute varieties. These include designations such as FH for Full Head, FT for Full Torch and FBL for Full Bell Lines. Likewise, the designations BN, RB and RD for Brown, Red-Brown and Red, respectively, are not varieties. NGC assigns a + to coins at the high end of their assigned grade, approaching the quality requirements for the next grade. The coveted star  designation is utilized by NGC to identify coins that have exceptional eye appeal that distinguish them from other coins of the same technical grade. All of these are designations that NGC's graders look for in the normal course of grading. They are not classified as varieties, they do not require an additional fee, and they do not need to be submitted under VarietyPlus.

This issue needs to be addressed by NGC. Giving out untrue information is not good for a company's reputation, especially with turnaround times being so much longer than the stated estimated time.

Take care, Brother. 

On 2/4/2022 at 7:51 PM, Hoghead515 said:

 This lot consist of four 25c, four 50c, and two $1 tokens. Im very excited to add a couple $1 tokens in with the others. Not sure what all is in a full set of them but it would be really cool to get a whole set eventually. 

 

 

Looks like they had tokens in denominations of 5, 10, 25, and 50 cents, and $1.

Here is the Tokencatalog.com page for Grahn, KY. It will be interesting to see if your two $1 tokens have the same misspelling as the one shown.

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OP, is there anyway you can post new pictures, straight on, and without the glare?

Below is a picture of RPM-009 (VP-005) from our host's Variety Plus page. While your coin does resemble it, it is not a match. Yours looks like die wear, to me.

The hairlines indicate a vigorous cleaning, and the rim hits look too severe to slab, as well. I do like the design, though. Very classic looking. If you could find a way for the coin to obtain a little natural patina, I think it would help the look a bit.

Better. Pictures one and four have a bit too much glare, and are still slightly fuzzy. Two and three are clearer. If you are holding your phone in your hand, try placing it on something stable, like a stack of books. Even your heartbeat can make the camera shake slightly.

On 2/3/2022 at 12:20 PM, SirDubre said:

Thanks Bob. 

 

Just to Clarify, if I bought a AU 55 Whizzed coin, it'd be more likely valued (price wise) like a VF or F?

 

Correct.

I should also add that some series fare better when it comes to certain types of damage. A 1793 chain cent that was dug from the ground and labeled "Environmental Damage" would retain much more of its value than an Indian cent with the same type of damage. LIkewise, cleaning coins was acceptable, even sometimes encouraged, in the not-too-distant past. It is not unusual to find Seated Liberty or Barber coins that have been lightly wiped or dipped in jewelry cleaner. Some collectors are a bit more forgiving in these situations, but most people these days want "original surfaces."

Does that mean that this paragraph from Wexler's "How Dies Are Made" is not accurate, or am I still confusing things?

When the Janvier Reduction Lathe was introduced in 1907, the first two digits of the date began to appear on the galvano and thus on the master hubs.  This was done so that the master hub could be used to make master dies over a period of several years.  Starting with the Lincoln cents in 1909, the last two digits of the date were engraved into the master die for each year.