Just Bob

58 minutes ago, KarenHolcomb said:

Yes JKK, you are correct. I wouldn't want someone to say something if they didn't know or care. I was likely being facetious.

Condor, Idk that I have ever been in another Forum, but I meant like on other websites like cointalk or coin community. I first went into those places before I found you guys. You guys are the real butter on the bread. They were but margarine. Ick! Nobody wants margarine. 

Conder101 is also on Cointalk and Coin Community. He gets around.

If I may:

UNC-DETAILS does not mean that the details are lacking. It means that the coin is uncirculated (has the details of an uncirculated coin), but has issues that prevent  it from receiving a numerical grade, at least in the eyes of that particular TPG. If no explanation was given, it could be cleaned, tooled, damaged, or some other problem, at least in their opinion.

I bet they had trouble getting that one to work in a gumball machine.

6 hours ago, Teacher Brian said:

Welcome to The Forum, Teacher Brian. Very nice first post!

On 2/10/2019 at 11:48 PM, Edthelorax said:

Should I just keep editing a single post of counterfeit ebay sellers or make a new comment for each? I have a ton of them but won't put a seller that has one fake occasionally or has questionable items. Only  the ones that are attempting to defraud with provable counterfeits. 

 

Since editing a post does not mark it as "unread," I would suggest making a new post. That way, current users will see it and be aware.

I agree that a seller that has a fake coin that they are not aware of should not be blackballed. If they are made aware of it and still refuse to pull it, and if it DEFINITELY is a fake, then they should be listed, in my opinion. I don't want to give a bad reputation to someone who does not deserve it, but sellers who knowingly sell fakes deserve to be outed.  

49 minutes ago, Edthelorax said:

This is the link to the Code of Federal Regulations page for the  Hobby Protection Act and it's reform the Collectible Coin Protection Act.

This defines what is an acceptable reproduction and the laws concerning them. The FTC is supposed to enforce this, but I don't think they care to. 

HPA/CCPA

Thank you for that link. Now I (and others)can locate it much more easily.

Seller "Atlanta Surplus Center" on the website Govdeals.com.

Neither Variety Vista, nor our host's Variety Plus lists a doubled die reverse for 1992D.

If you are referring to the coin in the picture,  that is strike (aka mechanical or machine) doubling.

1 hour ago, JKK said:

Looks like mechanical doubling conferring no premium.

Yep.

Very interesting looking and fun to find, but, unfortunately, not the type of doubling that is worth a premium.

Has anyone ever tried the milk jug light diffuser set-up with a phone camera?

In all honesty, I don't think the coin is worth very much in its condition. It has a good amount of wear, and, more importantly, damage. The "missing ear," the weird shape of the "0," the gouges on the neck,  behind the head,  and elsewhere - all of these are the result of contact, and all will lower the price of the coin. If it were a high grade uncirculated example, the combination of the die crack and extreme loss of detail from resurfacing would very likely interest a few variety/error/oddity collectors, but, in its condition, I would be surprised if someone was willing to pay more than a dollar for it. 

44 minutes ago, Hinkle said:

Hope your serious

Not even a little bit.

Poor Abe doesn't even have an ear left.  Just a hole, like a Bearded Dragon.  HEY, maybe you could list this coin on Etsy as a new variety! Maybe call it the "lizard man" error, and list it for $25,000.

Chinese seller "Da Vinci Jewelry Antique Collection" on the auction site Liveauctioneers.com. Counterfeit Trade dollars, Morgans, patterns,  etc.

If that line is raised, (and it appears to be), then, yes, it looks like a cracked die. That coin has a lot going on. Cool find.

It appears that this die was resurfaced to the point of removing some of the design, including the designer's initials and part of the roof of the memorial. From the little information I have found, this seems to be somewhat common on cents from 1969 and 70. (possibly other years, as well.)

5 hours ago, USAuPzlBxBob said:

Finally unboxed the coin, this morning.

Nice inner packaging.  Slide-sideways, both sides open-ended, blue-sleeve, blue-box's top lifts off and the printed card is on top of the coin's black-velvet with golden-metallic-trim coin-case.

Open the velvet case and there is the gold coin, inside an Air Tite, which is recessed in the velvet-case mount.

Very perfect looking.

But I don't like that if you were to shake the whole thing like a baby's rattle, you would wear down Neil's helmet-visor over time on the inside-top of the Air Tite.

That's Neil's helmet-visor, not Buzz's.

So, this will gladly be sent to NGC for holdering, to prevent that wearing down eventuality.

The only drawback to the coin is that when you look at the obverse, you cannot escape seeing your reflection mirrored back at you, from somewhere on the coin.

This is due to the coin's curvature, and the fields of Buzz's smooth helmet visor, and the surface-shadows on The Moon from the people and things that landed.

This is the first proof coin I've ever seen and it is the shiniest gold thing I've ever seen.  No question about that.  Glistens at times, depending on how I angle it.

Especially the back footprint!  OMG!

When taking photos with an iPhone (which I don't use for anything but photos; no subscription plan) the shadows on The Moon reflect the iPhone's black case (and the reverse footprint reflects it, too), and so they do have the black appearance seen in the U.S. Mint's proof photos, as a function of angling things when taking photos.

Best,

Bob

 

When do we get to see the pics?

9 hours ago, USAuPzlBxBob said:

New Jersey (like just below my avatar says?)

On my phone, there is nothing below your avatar.

20 hours ago, Cat Bath said:

The MS/AU distinction is already made when you buy a slabbed coin, I wouldn't worry about it.

It's guaranteed by the TPG to not be AU when it says MS on the plastic.

 

Unfortunately,.this is not always the case. There are many instances of market grading  - high end AU coins given MS grades due to eye appeal and perceived value. That is exactly what  the OP is concerned about, and it is a real possibility. 

Welcome to the forum.

A broadsrruck coin is one that was struck without the collar in place. The collar imparts the reeding on a quarter, so your coin had to have been struck with the collar in place. Therefore, it could not be broadstruck. I believe what you have there is a seriously damaged coin. From the look of it, I would guess that it was caught in some kind of machine, like a commercial clothes drier.

51 minutes ago, ale5254 said:

someone please help i have a coin that says its 1804 dollar coin . i have done the magnet and it did not stick . i also did the ice test. could this be a fake also how can i tell.

Welcome to the forum. You could start by posting clear pictures of the front and back of the coin. If you read this thread from the beginning, though, you will see that it is very unlikely that your coin is anything more than a souvenir, fantasy piece, or counterfeit. But, if you would like, we will be glad to take a look at your pictures and offer opinions.

14 hours ago, jtryka said:

This one arrived in the mail yesterday, a die marriage I didn't previously have!

 

O-114?

1 hour ago, ldhair said:

Sorry I'm so slow. It's a contemporary counterfeit.

 

I had a feeling that was what it was, since it looks hand carved.

Cool find. 

3 hours ago, numisport said:

Where did this come from ?

And, what is it?

1 hour ago, morganthebrave said:

Hi Just Bob

I was fortunate to obtain a original set (comes in a red holder with several other mint state coins) from a fellow Numismatist which I am very grateful of also paying a fair market price for the coin set.

Very cool! Congratulations on the score and the grades!