Just Bob

11 minutes ago, Mohawk said:

  If you have the patience, olive oil can work wonders on crudulation but you often have to soak the coin for at least a few days.

I have a brass token that has been soaking in olive oil for just shy of five months. In about another month, if the crud is softened, I will pick a thorn off one of my wife's roses, and remove as much as will come off. If the junk is tough I may have to repeat the process. The thorn is small enough to get into the crevices, stiff enough to get the junk off, but soft enough that it won't harm the token. (Thanks to Conder101 and former member Michael for that tip).

The only problem that I have found with olive oil is that, being slightly acidic, it can change  a copper, bronze or brass coin's appearance if left soaking for a long time. And don't soak more than one coin in the same container at the same time. If the surfaces of the coins are touching, an outline of one can be transferred to another one. (Thanks to my own ignorance for that last tip).

6 hours ago, Capone1929 said:

Just an absoluteTrue clad layer, lamination, Modern 1999 D Jefferson Nickel Error I do believe I found in my own change?

 

Your Jefferson is made an alloy consisting of 75% copper, 25% nickel. It is not clad, as a dime or quarter is, so what you have can not be a missing piece of a clad layer. To be honest, it looks like a stain.

9 minutes ago, Coincident said:

$1k lesson

Ouch!

5 minutes ago, Mohawk said:

Looks like Ol' Mucky the Hippo is back

If I ever join another Forum, I may make that my screen name.

Sounds like this may have been an expensive lesson, and, if so, I am truly sorry about that. I am afraid that I don't have much good news. Makers of replica or fake gold coins usually don't make them out of gold, so it probably has very little value, if any. There have been exceptions, but they are normally made of a base metal that has been thinly gold plated. Sometimes they don't even use real gold for the plating. Your best bet may be to find a coin or bullion dealer near you, and take it to them to be tested. They should do that for free. I hope it turns out to be at least partly gold, but I would not get my hopes up, if I were you.

9 minutes ago, Mohawk said:

 Also, as I said to Don, you have to let me know if you ever end up up here in New York as well, Bob

That isn't outside of the realm of possibility. My wife and I would love to make a return trip to Niagra Falls.

2 hours ago, Mohawk said:

Tell you what....if I ever end up in Mississippi, I'll let you know where I'll be....

If you do, be sure and let me know, too.

2 hours ago, Coincident said:

Yes I compared it, it is identicle in every way,

Although your piece has the same design as a genuine coin, it is nowhere near identical. Look at the hair, face and tips of the rays. You need not look any farther than that to see that your piece is not an identical match.

Look, no one on here is trying to deceive you, beat you out of your coin, or cause you grief in any way. We are just trying to alert you to the fact that you have a replica, not a coin, and save you some money and heartache.

3 hours ago, Coincident said:

Tried to take some better pics for ya

Yikes!

I did not want to say anything without seeing a picture of both sides, but. yeah, the other guys are correct.Your coin may appear beautiful to you, but it is not genuine. Sorry.

It appears to be the reverse of a Saint-Gaudens double eagle - a $20 gold piece. Can you show a picture of the obverse side (the side with Lady Liberty and the date)?

20 hours ago, coinsandmedals said:

Here a few others that I found with pictures that match your coins. I found the others without pictures. The specs are the same for all of them. 

 

Well done, Don.

6 hours ago, Dukemnm said:

 

Well done, Duke.

1 hour ago, Thompson2 said:

Take the rest of the week off.  Tell your boss I said it was okay.  😁

That won't work. He is the boss.

3 hours ago, KarenHolcomb said:

Well alright. Yes, I will then accept that they are probably cupronickel.

Nope. You shouldn't do that either. This is a mystery that has not yet been solved.

25 minutes ago, Dukemnm said:

Left to right,   Coppernickle, 10% silver, 40%silver, and .999% 

 

For the sake of accuracy: the 1968 Kennedy, while 40% silver as you said, is made up of two outer layers of 80% silver and 20% copper, bonded to a core of 21.5% silver and 78.5% copper. That makes it 40/60 silver/copper. So, what you are actually seeing under the tissue is 80% silver.

7 hours ago, KarenHolcomb said:

 

And so we are all in agreement, even with the tissue test, that I have the silver set? 

 

I'm not. I think they are copper-nickel, and the additional thickness - judging by your picture - accounts for the additional weight. Add the tissue test results to that, and I don't think they are silver.

I have been wrong more than once, though.

It is neither. It is a novelty piece.

12 hours ago, Mohawk said:

I saw a Bald Eagle, a Golden Eagle and four Turkey Vultures hanging out at a local grocery store today...

 

I have this mental picture of these guys standing around the parking lot, wearing t-shirts and black leather jackets, slicked back 50's hairdo, (feather-do?) matchstick hanging from the Bald Eagles beak, whistling at the Sparrows as they walk by.

MS62 and MS63, respectively.

That is on my phone. Looking at them on the laptop may be a different story.

This is a quote from an earlier thread, posted by Conder101:

"Tissue test. Put a single layer of tissue paper over them.  Clad proofs will appear gray, silver proofs will appear white.  This works whether they are in their original cases or not.  A quick easy test and good if it isn't possible to see the edge or weigh them." 

9 hours ago, Jim Lefeber said:

Thanks Tom. I posted this Thursday evening June 20.  How long does it normally take NGC/NCS to reply?

Sometimes they don't. I am still trying to find out why I can't see who likes my (or any other) posts.

Any way, back to your coins. I can see the haze on the first few coins, especially the quarter, and I can see why you would want to change the look of at least that particular one, but, if the multiholder were mine, I think I would leave it as is. They don't make those for regular customers any more - just for bulk submitters, I think - and the novelty of it really appeals to me. Just my opinion, though. Your mileage may vary.

Welcome to the forum.

Does the tissue test work with proofs?

Happy late birthday, and welcome back to the hot, muggy, South. Love the new coin!

2 hours ago, Rogelio2527 said:

Is ir false?

Welcome to the forum.

Ask yourself this question: "Do I honestly believe that someone has two old dollar coins worth thousands of dollars that they are offering for sale for $100 each?"

Have you ever heard the expression,"If it appears too good to be true, it probably is"? This is one of those situations.

They are both fake. Whatever that website is, do not buy coins from there.

It looks AU to me, although the glare makes it hard to see if there are any major hits on the surface.