Revenant

32 minutes ago, MIKE BYRNE said:

 

is that some.cost allot of money. One took two years to find. So because there just tokens and then only known set I left them out. I don't think there eligible. Thanks for your help. Mike

You could make a signature set for them and those are elligible for some awards.

While it is a "competition," the awards are more about recognizing contribution to the community and encouraging participation - particularly the big overall awards. Those go to well researched, well presented sets that add something unique and fun to the registry community.

The journal awards were never  a competition to me,  but were 100% about recognizing contribution to the community and sharing love of the hobby. They were only a competition in so far as 3 people got them and some years we had 70-80 participating authors. That said, the awards announcement for 2019 makes no reference to the journal awards. NGC does review and change the awards as they see fit and it would appear that 2018 was the 14th (?) and final year of the journal awards.

1 hour ago, Mokiechan said:

You need to blog about your photographic methods, if you have not done so already. 

I can share but it would be short and I suspect you'd be disappointed. The approach I used for these was pretty ghetto and basic, but I use a nice camera and lens. Sometimes I use a shadowbox or some other, nicer lights. But I didn't for these.

1 hour ago, gherrmann44 said:

You're right. But I never really started all this with the sole purpose of being recognized.

Wasn't trying to say that it was. Just saying that at this point it is well recognized.

On 4/14/2019 at 9:06 PM, CRAWTOMATIC said:

A couple weeks back I flipped an "ugly" MS63 Morgan (common date) for 40% profit in 10 days simply because it was in the gen 3 pcgs holder.  Well, I say simply, but like @gherrmann44 mentioned the holders themselves are almost the rarity.  If there's 50 copies of a common coin available but only 1 or 2 in an out of print holder then those 2 instantly become the exception to the population.

It's a different strokes for different folks thing. We're all attracted to different things and the holders and the TPGs are an extra layer of history and story onto the coin and the hobby - similar to my comments / journals at the time I got my 1877 10G, chosing the coin that I did in part because the cert# suggests a shared history with other coins in my set.

Congrats, Gary! You're well recognized and regarded as an author on this subject now with the journal award here 5 times and other honors heavily linked to your writing and narrative abilities. It makes sense that we and NGC wouldn't be the only ones that think so.

The Red is "Best in Category." You can win this with any US or World Catehory. You win this for having the set with the highest score (and most pics where tie breaking is needed). For US sets, this includes/counts PCGS coins that are grandfathered in from before 2017.

The Blue is "NGC Best in Category." This is given only in US Categories. It is given to the set with the highest score when looking only at NGC graded coins. Grandfathered PCGS coins don't count for this award. It has been awarded since 2012 - the year PCGS coins were removed from the World registry sets. This award is not given in World Categories as there are no non-NGC graded coins in World set categories anymore.

If the same set wins when counting and not counting PCGS coins, it wins both awards in a US Category.

Hope that helps.

5 hours ago, gherrmann44 said:

Interesting, since I have always considered NGC among the most tolerant of anything-go's-posts. At any rate, its just a word and they are still tolerant of almost all opinions no matter how bizarre they may seem.

The filter is, I think, mostly there to help keep things civil. We're allowed to disagree with them and each other but we aren't allowed to attack each other, threaten each other or engage in petty name-calling. Thus, the filter. Yeah, it means it kicks in when we're not actually insulting each other and sometimes ourselves.

To Mokie: The "ID: 10-T error," as we sometimes like to call it, is always good for a laugh as long as you don't take yourself too seriously.

I've seen people talk up the fact that it's in an old holder while asking a higher price but I don't know that I've ever explicitly seen someone pay more for this reason outside of the people that openly collect holders/slab styles because they enjoy that.

Most of the old fatty NGC holders I have because the coin was in the price range I was expecting and the seller wasn't asking for grade-up money.

I've also never heard of anyone beibg willing to put enough money down to thoroughly test the hypothesis of the upgrade potential.

2 hours ago, Sheik Sheck said:

Send me your adress, I have a Zimbabwe gift for your son. Congrats.

Thanks! Will do. 

I know some prefer the old slabs visually to the new ones - for NGC and PCGS - assuming the slab is reasonably well cared for and not beat to hell. Others think grading standards in both companies were stricter back then and try to bump prices based on supposed upgrade potential while not actually incuring the risk / expense of sending it back in... Mailing in for a reholder will probably cost $20+ per coin all in after shipping so there's that.

All I know on it.

1 hour ago, Just Bob said:

How much does Sam weigh now?

His last hospital weigh im was 5 lbs 13 oz. His first peds appointment is tomorrow so we'll get an updated weight then. He's supposed to gain about 1 oz a day.

5 minutes ago, gherrmann44 said:

 I know the Zimbabwe postal woes are only a fly in the ointment and pales in comparison. Congratulations!  

Oh definitely! But I still want to grumble!  

A journal entry isn't really the place to ask about that. You probably want to contact NGC more directly,

They have a contact form:

https://www.ngccoin.com/contact/

They also have email:

Service@NGCcoin.com

Glad to see you finally got one you've been dreaming of getting. Always nice when you find a dealer / seller that lists "Best Offer" and they're actually willing to entertain offers and not just shave $5 off the price of a $1000 coin just to placate you.

Random thought, but, I think of those prongs as indicating a "new-style" holder but those edge-view holders have been the norm for about 10 years now and there are now coins that were graded a decade ago that are in those holders, so I guess I need to stop thinking that coins in those holders were "more recently graded."  

18 minutes ago, gherrmann44 said:

There is something else about those Netherlands sets of ours in that we were competing in the registry with the same user for the top registry set. It seems that he was buying up coins like crazy to populate both sets. You came up with the term money-bags for him that I thought was somewhat humorous. Seems like when he couldn't compete he packed his bags, picked up his marbles (coins), and went home!  Fond memories. Yet people like you and I are still there after 10 years.

Yeah. That sounds like something I would have done when I was 22. lol Maybe one of these days I'll finish my set.

5 hours ago, Mohawk said:

These days, I'm striving for simple.  Don't get me wrong, I think the Registry is still a great thing and I really enjoy seeing what everyone builds on here.  I enjoy selling graded coins to help people who collect on the Registry achieve their goals.  And, of course, I love the boards here.  But the Registry isn't for me any longer.  I've accomplished my main goal for being there and it's best to go out on a high note like a big win.  The boards are all I need these days.

Sorry for such a long response here.......you're a very thought provoking writer Rev!

I think you're just going to have to remember that:

1) graded coins / notes work well for some projects and not others, even for those that like them (some don't).

2) There tends to be a natural ebb and flow to life. If I recall correctly from your past posts, you've already "retired" from the registry once and come back (haha - you aren't that old yet). You'll probably have something that has you wanting to use it again later - even if later is 3-5 years from now. I was hardly on here at all from 2012-2017. That's just life.

As far as the stuff? You can only have so much before it's a burden.

I love a line from Orange is the New Black. "Collectors curate their collection. Otherwise you're just a hoarder."

2 hours ago, gherrmann44 said:

The last time I checked my old posts was before the current journal format. Interestingly Revenant, I don't remember recommending the 1875 MS-67 10G to you. I do know that I would of had to have known you were looking for that coin in order for me to recommend it to you. This is something I could have only known if you had written about it or I found that you had started a registry set. For me I love helping out other collectors whether it be recommending a coin to acquire or writing a journal of my good and bad collecting experiences.Though I do not remember, I think about the same time you recommended to me a 1897 MS-66 10G that I also still own.

I'm pretty sure the conversation took place through private messages though I don't know what started the conversation. It's been too long. Lol 

1 hour ago, Guest said:

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As a general rule, I'm not in the habit of clicking on random links posted without explanation by people that log in as "guest" and don't take ownership of their posts. So... care to share examples of your work more directly? Care to share here without the links to Russian domain sites that might be for sites that give us all viruses?

48 minutes ago, gherrmann44 said:

My prayers of comfort go out to you and your family during this difficult time. Yesterday, upon hearing the news I perused your 1932 mint set in honor of your step-father's father. In a strange way I had a connection with that set in that I notified you that it won the best presented award. That has always been a fond memory of mine that I immediately thought of when I heard the news.

Yes, indeed. I remember that as well. I was still early in grad school and that had kept me so busy I don't think I'd even thought about this place much in about a year when your message popped up in my inbox. I've been looking at that set recently as well and it contains a number of now somewhat dated references. It might warrant a bit of reworking in the near future just to bring it into the current decade.

I don't know if you remember this but you were also involved / helped me find the PCGS graded MS67 1875 Netherlands 10G coin that became the first coin in that set, even though it no longer appears in my NGC registry.

36 minutes ago, gherrmann44 said:

I have no doubt that if coins is something Ben does with his dad that it will go a long way towards him collecting coins on his own some day! Showers of silver rounds sounds like a lot of fun for both father and son!  

Well, you can see the pictures now of him laughing like a crazy person while I drop silver rounds on and around him.  

2 hours ago, jackson64 said:

PS: if you think it will help jump starting his interest--I have some of the old, brass game tokens in one of my stashes....PM me an address and I'll shoot some various tokens your way ( might even have some old transit tokens from different cities in these mish mash boxes too-- could be nice transitional pieces from game tokens toward coins.............

Thanks for the offer. I'll shoot you the current address later. I don't know if he'll respond to it (or any of this) or not. I tried showing him these tokens last night and he just looked at me and then went back to watching the Incredibles on the Kindle Fire Kids Edition that he just got for his birthday. I have an uphill battle I think but at least I'm starting early.

5 hours ago, Mokiechan said:

I think you may stimulate a run on Chuck E tokens, are they really just plastic?   And more importantly, what are you thinking they will grade at, when you submit them?

Oh my. I'm still recovering from the graded Big Mac coins. I honestly have no clue on if NGC would grade something like this or not. It could be hysterical to do if they would and I had plenty of money sloshing around (ie won the lottery levels of money), but I my finances are such right now that that is NOT where I'm going to be putting my money. Even if I had the money there are othering things I'd rather spend the grading fees on. Nothing against anyone that would want to grade such things, but, for me, the value just isn't there - "Limited Edition" or no.

I haven't taken either of them out yet so I don't know if they're plastic but I suspect that they are. One of them might get opened when I show them to my son but I'm planning to keep at least one in the cardboard.

19 minutes ago, thesharkJonas said:

I don't slab. Too much money. And ANACS has some crazy ideas, by the way. Did you know you ANACS SLABS ROLLS OF COINS????? Ridiculous. Bonkers. Out of this world. However, slabs are good for protecting coins.

I'm pretty sure I've seen an NGC-graded roll of silver eagles, so it's not just ANACS.

Getting something graded and encapsulated with the main goal being to protect it / preserve it I think is more common than some people give it credit for. As I've said in posts on the boards, protecting the notes, which are on fairly cheap / low quality paper, is my primary motivation in building a set of PMG graded Zimbabwean banknotes. I've said it myself many times - the PMG grade doesn't really add any value in this series unless you luck into something like a 68EPQ, 69EPQ grade. Anything lower than that? the increase in the sale price of the note barely covers the cost of bulk grading for dealers - it's less than the cost of grading if you're submitting individual notes yourself. So it's 100% not about the value for me. It's 100% about the long term presentation and preservation of the set. I have coins that fit into this same category - bought graded for preservation and presentation, because I really do like the new generation of NGC holders. I like them a lot.