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In addition, please rotate the first one 90 degrees counterclockwise. Almost sure that will align it correctly. When you retake the second, please rotate it 180. 100% sure that'll align it correctly. Decent pics properly aligned, with measurements, and I can look into it.

I don't see a reasonable mint explanation of those marks emerging, so I'd have to say bag marks or post-mint damage.

For me, it's two things. Has nothing to do with the narcissists; they can be avoided/ignored. Has nothing to do with the trolls, though it's amusing watching the sexism that comes into play. An evident female can get away with a lot more around here, and they know it and take advantage of it. Don't imagine otherwise. They have enough disadvantages in our world, but the compensating advantage is that on balance there's evidence they're smarter than we are and develop a good sense for other compensating advantages. My hat's off to them for resourcefulness, but it's funny watching everyone here holding back where someone posting as CoinGod2023 and bragging about Rare Mint Errors has such a quick hook. Name themselves CoinMisti2023 and they'd get away with more (and not just because almost no women are stupid enough to use a braggarty handle like some males do). First, the Great Mutilation of merging the US, world, and ancient forums together. This was the biggest mistake the board management ever made. It created a mega-forum that might as well just be called Coins, and made it hard to find the world and ancient stuff amidst all the dopey stuff about small dates and parking lot nickels and Real Rare Vallyouabull Mint Errers is this stamped rong can I ratier now? Bleh. Second, the way the board logs me out every four days and requires me to relogin. Has been happening since the big migration oh, maybe a couple years back. What this means is that unless I relogin, which I only normally do when I have something to post, all my ignore settings do not kick in, which means that all of the more abominable stuff now shows right back up. I don't see what the board gains from this, but I know it loses a lot of posting from me (perhaps they are happier that way) because I look and say, "Do I care enough to go through this fake logout/new login process this board is enforcing? Why, no. No, I do not. Someone else can help them." Between those two basically self-inflicted wounds, I just am not on as much.

We'd have to no what it looks like. Right now we don't no what condition it's in.

One gets the feeling that your financial world is as full of fantasy and imagination as your numismatic one.

You haven't hung out on my local NextDoor. They could be that stupid. They are.

A year and a half later they're still pushing it. They dropped the price to $800.

Already did. Ten cents.

It is certainly worth $0.10.

There is no reason to buy from someone who refuses to show that information to you, so the question is moot. I would let someone else be this person's victim.

The way to use graphics of varieties, in my experience, is relatively. By that I mean subtle variations in angle, direction, and distance. Let's imagine you're looking at the images ldhair posted, very helpful. What stands out the most by itself? Not the thickness; that only stands out comparatively, as in the images side by side. But look at the shaft of the 2 and compare. On the large date, it is straight. On the small date, it is more curved. So if you're just looking at pennies with a magnifying glass, you'd aim at that. If it hasn't got that curve, you can stop looking at that coin; you have your answer. In all variety hunting situations, and some others (notably authentication of frequently faked stuff), I look for a diagnostic that simply must be present. Sometimes the variance is "the letters on this one aim directly at such and such" or "the point of the wing aims directly at the W," etc. Once you get your diagnostic right, you won't be confused any more. And yes, it's okay to do it with magnification. You don't grade with mag, but you do assess other factors.

Here's the logic. The longer the thread gets, the harder it is to keep track of which coin one is talking about. Thus, the request of one per thread. It is perfectly fine and normal to start a brand new thread to post a coin and ask questions. And yes, if you have ten coins, and that means posting ten threads, very well.

Good. As you can tell, we get a lot of people who aren't joking about it at all, and sincerely believe they are about to be able to retire early.

I was thinking of heating up all their coins, then forcing them to swallow them.

It's an S, for San Francisco, and the S mint mark normally looks that way.

Then send it in for grading, macho man, and let's see what the services say.

It's PMV: post-mint vandalism.

The problem with that is if the thread gets longer, no one wants to keep scrolling all the way up to pick out which coin they're talking about. People like me, who have very quick 'don't bother' thresholds, simply close it and let someone else deal with it. So you get more help, more quickly, if you create separate threads. Also, your wife's right. Truth with the bark on: You're about to learn that a lot of what you think are valuable errors are just damaged or defective (in ways that add no value). You will have achieved a great deal if you find a single piece worth $10. So instead of thinking this might be the coin that hits the big one, think none of them are worth more than face, and seek to learn how to eliminate damaged and defective coins from your consideration. Trust us: If you have one that's really a valuable error, we will say so. It gets really fatiguing breaking the news to people that their coins aren't special, and someone with their hopes way up makes it harder. But go ahead and post them by all means; the clearer and sharper the photos, the easier it will be to explain why if there were that much free money rolling around in the currency system, more people would be doing this. You'll learn what is and what isn't.

The Guati and damaged Soviet pieces seem irrelevant to the topic at hand. What do they have to do with US nickels?

Doubt it, but it's a nice find.

With sending stuff in for professional grading, my counsel is to ask yourself what is the desired result. Broadly speaking, is it profit or hobby? If it's profit, you have to think you're increasing its value by $60 or more, or that its value is worth confirming. Obviously, if the coin is only worth a fraction of the grading cost, the profit motive is probably mistaken. If it's hobby, there could be many reasons: you're doing a fully slabbed collection, you just want to be sure it's real or a certain variety, you are assembling a registry set, your grandfather gave it to you and you like it, whatever. All hobby reasons are valid because they don't require the math to work out to a financial benefit.

While one doesn't grade with magnification--at least not up to MS or PF-68--one does authenticate and assess cleaning with it. One major tell is when the coin is too bright for its level of wear, especially when it's the same on the worn parts and the protected areas. Another is tiny scratches, either horizontal (handheld wire brush side to side) or circular (dremel tool rotary wire brush). Mag can also show areas of dip residue, for example. I hit it with a 60x coin microscope and can usually tell when it's been whizzed. Also a good tool for spotting varieties.

If a post's title is of no interest, anyone with any maturity will just pass it by. Not everyone here is that mature. We have at least one person, around whom their world absolutely revolves, who finds it necessary to post to tell people they are not interested in the poster's coin or question. As the millennials used to say, totes brills. But that's not malice, just narcissism. The smart way to title the post is to summarize the coin and the question. "1880 Liberty dollar grade and value" is beautiful, for example, because that's what a novice might be able to tell about an 1880 Morgan. Whether they called it a Morgan, or even knew of the possibility of a mint mark, is beside the point because the information is enough for people to decide whether to look--and they can post to clarify the coin's attribution when they offer a grade and value estimate. Sometimes it's hard to know that much. I'm mainly into ancients and Islamic world stuff, and I don't scoff at someone who posts a jital and says "can't identify Arab coin." (Jitals mostly contain some Arabic -script but are from the region of Afghanistan, which is not Arabic-speaking.) Or someone who's got a common worn fourth-century ant of Constantius (good for me as a sleep aid; if I see one more I'll become narcoleptic) and titles it "Ancient Greek coin." People mislabel tokens as coins all the time in titles. If people would use their brains, they'd see that the poster in those cases is trying their best with what they can see. Of course they have no f-bombing idea it's not Greek. That's why they asked! And it takes some guts to risk being wrong. So those are never a downside, at least in my mind. They tried. Add something about what they want, such as "please identify" or "worth much?" and the title is golden. The dumb way is to just say N000Bzz PLZ HELP as the title, or something else that tells us very little except that their writing is probably agonizing to make out. That tells us we are dealing with someone who does not bother to see the world from our perspective, raising the question whether we should bother with them (some Good Samarican always will). They'll probably post one of the famous forty-line paras with no punctuation. They'll nearly always have pareidolia (fancy word for wishful thinking; wishful vision, if you will). They'll argue with us, threaten to have it graded and prove us wrong (that'll fix our little red wagons). They write like children and they behave like children, but get angry when treated like children. Some even bring race into it, as if we had any idea whether they were white, black, Asian, Hispanic, or blue with pink dots. Or cared. Basically, what do you think you have, and what do you want to know. "1964D Lincoln DDO?" is fine, because at least that means when we answer to tell them that it's just mechanical doubling, and that when you post a pic of the reverse the term would be 'DDR' if that were in play, we knew what it was about and had a question to answer.

Posts don't have to contain questions. However, if you post a coin without a question, and no one comments--which would be pretty normal with parking lot damaged modern stuff--that would be because those who looked at it didn't think you needed any input. Speaking just for me, if I were to see your original post in the feed, I'd say: "Reeded edge. Dime. Means nothing to me." But that wouldn't mean you did anything wrong, just that it doesn't fit my personal interests. Now, if you posted one like that, and twenty minutes later posted again ragging on us for not giving you an instant reply, that'd be different. But you did not do that. You'd be amazed how many people think they can just post a pic with no explanation, and that we'll all look at it immediately and then use our psychic powers to divine what the poster wants to know. I just block people who do that, as I just block anyone who in my view is an insufficiently_considerate_or_intelligent_person.

Damn. We know how it is out here when orchards get messed up. All that stuff sounds excellent. Looking forward to seeing your coin and whether I can be of help.