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JKK

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  1. We're being trolled. No one is this clueless, not even in Murrica.
  2. "fishbone"? Maritimes? Or someplace like Port Alberni? At first it didn't register with me, then I noticed. If you're going to move about the Canadian coin world at all--the one that any dealers near you will operate in, of course--it's important to know a couple of things. (I'm from Kansas and live in Oregon, but I'm that rare USian who can name all your provincial and territorial capitals, and likes poutine and Arctic char.) I've collected your coinage for decades and enjoy it very much. I especially like pre-Confederation stuff. One is that while the RCNA standards follow a descriptive and numbering pattern similar to the ANA's, they have important differences. To some degree Canadian grading is easier because the obverse is similar across the board, and they don't change the monarch's picture too frequently. I believe QE II had three total portraits. Anyway, once you learn what's important about a given portrait with regard to grading, that will apply to all issues bearing that portrait. Another important difference is that the RCNA standards are less muddy. In those, the details either are there or they are not, and there's no wiggle room for eye appeal in most grade levels. (Maybe at very high levels, but I am only experienced in grading circulated Canadian coins.) Your best reference on this is the Charlton book. It's the Canadian equivalent to our Red Book. It has excellent blowup shots of varieties, pricing information that at least has use showing relative values, and RCNA grading guidelines. I don't buy it every year but it has helped me a lot. I think nowadays it comes in two volumes. And they're right; there is no way to remove the clasp that would make it like it never happened. I can think of nothing even a professional goldsmith could do that would conceal the former location of a clasp. If you spent a fair bit of money on one, you might get one that would fool a novice, but fooling an experienced collector would be almost as hard as fooling a reputable grading service. Not that you would seek to fool anyone; rather, it just means there's no way to turn that clock back far enough, sorry to say.
  3. You are rightly advised not to clean them, so your instincts are good there. The gold depends. A lot of gold from that era does not get a big premium. Good sharp photos of both sides will enable us to give you some idea. Same for the dollars and dimes.
  4. I thought "no" was a pretty clear, unambiguous answer, thank you very much. Not sure how anyone could be clearer. You did not ask "and why?" but I'll go ahead and tell you. Because from the first view, even though we did not get full photos, I could see that it was a 1970s D Kennedy, circulated. That told me it was worth fifty cents. The mechanical doubling was an obvious irrelevancy (granted, not to novices, but to experienced collectors). If you put $50 into having it graded, it wouldn't make it easier to sell because serious collectors know it's not worth $0.51; thus the $50 would be a sunk cost that potential buyers would describe as "Wow, NGC really took that guy." Or I could have just said "No." Which I did, because none of the qualifiers really matter. It's like asking if throwing a hamster in the air will help it to fly. One can either say "no," or one can waste everyone's time by painfully explaining that hamsters cannot fly. So. No. Simple, economical, and in hopes of not wasting any more of either of our time on a subject that can't go anywhere.
  5. A good example is railroad tracks. Not only will people try to race the train--as any thinking person can see, not a great idea--but we require signs (at least where I live) telling people not to stop their cars on the tracks. And even then people still do it. When I see it, I am torn between hoping a train comes along so that Darwin can improve the gene pool, and hoping one doesn't because the offenders would probably either panic and wreck every car around them, or fail to notice and have their car rammed into others who do not deserve it. Another. Every day, on my local BegsDoor, the same people whine for money. All negative events are excuses for a gofundme. Had COVID? "Give to me!" Car broke down? "Give to me!" Can't afford to take care of my pet's vet needs? "Give to me!" Don't want to work even though a fern with a felony record could get hired at a stop-and-rob or McDogfood's? "Give to me!" And people keep giving to them. Every time. That's the low-level scam: the begging, the explosion of tip requests on credit card taps, and so on. One I've reposted a few times is a local Craigslist dude who has a somewhat browned quarter he claims is bronze and therefore wants, what is it...$700 nowadays. On the positive side, he's been at it for at least two years and still doesn't seem able to sell his quarter, so that's at least good. Anyone who wants to email him to yank his chain, don't look at me to discourage you.
  6. You obviously have not spent most of the last twenty years in the United States. If you had, you would surely understand how that could happen. Stupidity and ignorance are these bottomless wells of gullible brain death in our national culture, and there is no such thing as a scam so ridiculous no one would fall for it. In a developed and educated country, perhaps, that might apply; nowadays, ours is neither. Not only will people fall for it, but they will walk, crawl, or dive into any scam. Any.
  7. Tough lesson, indeed. Very spendy one. Sorry to hear of it. When I look at the general phenomenon, I think it comes down to a complete and perhaps engineered decline of critical thinking. In 1965, the US Mint mostly did away with silver in circulation coinage. They minted a lot in 1965 because they had to; the silver started coming out of circulation as fast as people could hoard it, and the commerce needed change. (Now those people are retiring, and are shocked to find out that it's not worth all that much.) So, it was easy to sift through one's change to get higher value...briefly. Soon the silver finds became rare. By my collecting beginning, circa 1970, they were pretty well cleaned out with an occasional leaker. Best silver odds were still war nickels, because so few people realized they had a little less silver than a silver dime. If it were that easy to just sift through one's change and pull out coins that were worth tens or hundreds of dollars, enough people would do that as well, and it would not take very long before all such coins were out of circulation. Ergo, it can't be that easy to just cherrypick Rare Error Varieties, or everyone would do it. Critical Thinking 101. We get a few every day, and we try to let them down gently unless they become phalli. In addition to the complete collapse of critical thinking, we get people (not the OP) who just can't let go of it. They argue, debate, point out some problem they don't actually understand but are certain they do, whip out ten more coins (always posted in the same thread, naturally), and insist that they are now rich. We tell them to send 'em in and get rich. We never hear back that they got rich. The fact is cherrypicking can be fun, and some people gradually develop modest collections of RPMs and such. And as long as people are not thinking Big Bucks, and so long as they are not paying $60 per coin to be told they are worth only face, that's not such a big deal. And with regard to the other CT aspect of the whole pursuit, I wonder why it's never occurred to people how much authentic coin they could buy for those grading costs. If six coins is about $300, that'll buy a pleasing GSA 188x-CC Morgan, MS 62+. Not bad! I'd rather have that than the plastic. But that so rarely seems to occur to people.
  8. After you find some cleaning evidence with one, or successfully find a RPM because you blew the mint mark up large enough to identify it, you might find yourself rethinking that about the microscope. That, of course, does not mean that the OP's doing anything but wasting his time; you're quite correct there.
  9. The numerous errors in this post do not support your statements here. I myself don't overly stress about stuff that I know most people can't even spot, but I do my best not to make numerous spelling errors. Rule #1 of Writers' Club: if you're going to brag about being one, your writing had best reflect it. This does not, I'm afraid.
  10. No. Suggest you look up some authentic doubled dies so you know why this isn't one.
  11. True. Which is why I think that wherever the coin was, the damage was not even. If it's wedged somewhere, the damage could be localized. I do not have a theory to offer about how that occurred, but I think there is far better evidence for it than the grease-filled die--which is very hard to speculate on with such a worn and damaged piece.
  12. I don't see how the supposed grease managed to describe this consistent radius, where all of its effect is in the roughly 2mm from the obverse edge. The damage even left faint lines bounding it.
  13. This is PMD. This did not occur at the mint. Period.
  14. The fact that it's struck somewhat off center doesn't change the fact that it's damaged. I highly doubt that it's worth resubmitting.
  15. Thanks for telling us how we should talk to people. We never get proper education from brand new people on how we ought to handle things, so it's good to have a qualified person setting us straight. While you're doing that, bear in mind a couple of things: Sometimes what you are seeing is a response/reference to someone not the OP, in which you might or might not understand why they might have earned some sarcasm. And yes, I'm talking about my wang dang reference. Some of us have been doing this for a number of years and have worn a little thin in playing kissy-face with spoiled brats. A spoiled brat is someone who comes in, asks a question, and (pick all that apply) a) expects an immediate answer; b) wants their rear end kissed just for existing; c) argues with highly qualified people who helped them out of the goodness of their hearts; d) becomes a major Massengill Canoe when it is pointed out to them that they've just said or done something that is jerkier than the Reser Smokehouse. It is true that, now and then, we have regulars who get rude before they have just cause. For example, it's a myth that there are no stoopid questions. There are many and no one could be here long without grasping that. However, there are mildly dufey questions and there are blatantly, offensively dufey questions. For example, posting a thread named after oneself, asking about a coin, but failing to add a photo of it--yeah, that's pretty dufey. Anyone like that will never learn from being sucked up to. They probably will never learn at all, but they certainly haven't earned any goodwill. But the people that just ask the same question fifty other people asked this month, in good faith, prepared to accept whatever input we have--those people deserve respectful treatment, and it annoys me when they get jumped. Those who do jump them should be ashamed of themselves. It is also true that we have a few narcissists here who are certain that their hobby, the way they collect, is the only way to collect and that no other methods are valid. I'm usually the one pointing that out to them, when I can summon the energy to waste (they never learn). If you see that, make sure to set them straight as well. It won't help, but it'll be entertaining.
  16. Maybe at the MSA (More Rons' Society of America) convention. Then again, to go by Wang dang, maybe they already frequent this site.
  17. A little less than a 1964 silver quarter.
  18. Toning can be pretty, ugly, or meh. I think the cause of these was the cellophane. I'm not sure when it was, but sometime around the 80s perhaps, PVC went out the window as a source of coin storage. I'm not sure if these have PVC or something else, but that's when the major shift in archival quality storage came along. You should see coins that were stored in those old clear plastic PVC tubes for decades--they have to be acetoned just to get the gross greenish-blue slime off. Nasty.
  19. The Red Book adds a lot. What matters not so much is the prices, which will have fluctuated since printing, but the relative pricing. Here's a good example. I was helping a friend go through a collection like this last weekend, and we were looking at an old Whitman album of Peace dollars. I showed him the mintage figures, and there was one with very low mintage but also pretty worn. It was a great chance to show him how common examples of that particular issue actually didn't get a premium, but really high-grade ones got a very very large one. Contrast this with the 09-S VDB penny, which there is no such thing as an authentic readable example for less than three figures. So when you're in the situation you're in, what the RB tells you is relative premium. Once you get them sorted by type, a quick look at the book will tell you which issues are premium and what conditions that requires. You'll know immediately which at least deserve further consideration (to segregate) and which don't really stand out. It will also tell you pretty much an idea of the high retail for basic pieces in low grade, and how much silver is in those that contain it.
  20. Yeah, that's replated. As an altered/damaged coin, it has nothing going for it.