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It kinda looks like copper plating damage revealing a zinc core on the obv at 2:30, but I think plating wasn't used until 1982 and that date should be 95% copper.

Also, the Red Book only lists the 1942 (P) and 1942-D as having a 42 Over 41 being issued. No 42 Over 42.

Yup, that is exactly how my US Mint 2021 Innovation $1 Reverse Proof Set looks, as well as the individual NH [2021-S] proof coin. Not that the OPs coin is a rotated die, but I heard from a whispering bird that the official US Mint tolerance on a rotated die is 7 degrees (unconfirmed with no luck verifying). According to the Coin World Almanac mint employees consider coins with a die rotation of 5 degrees or less to be within tolerance. And that even beyond that, there is little added value unless the rotation is greater than 45 degrees using the errors price guide. Maybe @RWB could shed a little light on the official die rotation tolerance and source.

If they are coming back in coin body bags from NGC an PCGS it would make me pause. But I do like the toning of some even if it's AT. Too bad they didn't hoard/tone any dollar or half dollar coins, since that is what I really focus on besides circulated quarters, as long as they were appropriately discounted as an impaired coin going in eyes wide open.

I'm not a nickel or Appalachian buff, but didn't PCGS and NGC stop grading or cross grading these coins because it was determined that they were AT?

@SandonThe one that I couldn't believe was the toned 1913 5C T1 that NGC required you to have "conserved" due to some spots, which they did which ruined the toning and then they graded it Details-Cleaned. 😜

The seam on the 2000 side jumped right out at me in your original pics, particularly on the left side around "In God We Trust". But maybe I just expected it to be there having seen these made a while ago and checking raw coins for that which are faked that way sometimes.

I saw a video a while ago of what goes into making these, which takes skill and the right equip to get right so you can barely even see the seam. They are apparently popular with places like magic shops as the guy couldn't keep up with demand, and from your find do sometimes get into circulation.

Interesting that NGC would authenticate, grade and slab coins if there were signs of AT.

I am working on a custom set for a complete 1878-1921 Morgan Dollars - Circulated Coins (105 coins) collection following the competitive set entries as a guide as most coins in my collection are raw, which does not qualify for the competitive sets. I have been working on it for a while, and it's going to take a while longer to finish a first pass and then plug the more expensive holes.

I did end up bidding on and getting the attached for $26 which I mentioned above, which was less than the other two darker looking ones went for, and will see how it looks in-hand. Now what did I do with those NGC grading submittal forms.

Bill, I think JP knows exactly what he found and was having a little fun with it. I think he got you pretty good searching all over the place for examples of the fakes vs the one known real one. 😜 I also have a "genuine" 2-headed Morgan in my Potty Dollar collection, which is the one I roll around on top of my fingers. 😉 And about my hint above concerning the seam see this ... https://www.thesprucecrafts.com/is-a-two-headed-coin-genuine-768776

Is that a seam near the rim on the 2000 side? Nah, I think you hit the jackpot! 😜 [Very cool find either way. 😉]

I am in no rush and will see where things go from here. In the meantime, I already have the 2021 and 2022 1-oz gold coins from the US Mint ordered when spot prices were pretty low. I think they actually did an amazing job of reproducing the Saint obverse and improved the strike quality. I have posted the attached pics in another thread, but they just don't do these coins justice like having them in your hand to look at.

Doing a little eBay fishing?

"Say Hello to my Little Friend" (at least 2 decimal place gram accuracy, to go with the above calibration weight). And a "Good Old Days" option for @Oldhoopster [duck].

I have actually gotten very good at this. [However, I do this with my raw Morgans, not the ones that have been acetone embalmed and locked in slab coffins like the above. I just can't seem to get the knack of flipping the plastic holders across my fingers. ]

I have been looking at MS60 to MS62 like the one above, but they have been going for over $2k (with a BP) or about 15% over spot, even with a damaged holder. I am keeping my eyes open and just being patient for prices to come back down from the unusual price spike earlier this year.

Har, I just quoted you so there is no going back now.

Offf, can't even imagine attempting that. If it's zinc it should weigh between 2.40g and 2.60g on a calibrated scale, right?

I'm not really into coin errors even though I have a few I find interesting, mostly Morgans. But if you are into errors and want a better idea on value this might help ...

That is a pretty nice off-center strike error compared to many I have seen since it like 75% off and still includes the date. You can look here to get an idea of value ... https://coinquest.com/cgi-bin/cq/coins.pl?coin=925

The calibration weights for scales are invaluable and only like $7 or $8 on Amazon. I am often weighing older coins to check weights and always calibrate the scale first. Even if everything on the surface check out prepare yourself for the more likely outcome that it comes back in a coin body bag as these coins are faked. Another option if things check out is to bring it to a local coin shop for an opinion to help figure out if it's worth your hard earned money to send it in.

I am slowly comming around to appreciate the TPG slabbed coins. But as Gollum would say if he was a collector ... "I like my coins raw and wiggly" and I'm often popping coins out of my easy-open holders to check them out. Now where did I put that meeting schedule. 😉

See above for weight range and calibrate scales with a known weight.