GBrad

On 5/11/2022 at 3:07 PM, Alex in PA. said:

I agree with @GBrad  There is something off about your S.  I do not know what NGC meant by altered.  Possible changed or enhanced in some way.  Maybe try ATS and get a second opinion??

I can only suspect, with common sense as my backup, that when you get into the category that this FB Mercury (The upper bands are iffy but I think there is still enough separation IMHO) would potentially fall into, TPG's really have to scrutinize every minute detail.  The inside top of the S mm looks like it has been pushed slightly sideways and created an unnatural angle of sorts. I don't know, it's just what I can see after copying the pooh and then zooming in. Not sure how that would happen on an otherwise fairly flawless coin. That would be one incredibly unlucky "hit" right there inside the mm if that is the case.  I agree with Alex about maybe getting a second opinion. 

I took this straight from our host's "Coin Grading" section.  Damage (often referred to as Details) and alterations are two different things. It is hard to see your mint mark on the coin even by zooming in, at least it is for me anyway.  I can however, see some type of discrepancy in the upper curve of the S, but that's about all.  

From NGC:  

"Coins that have been damaged or display excessive surface hairlines or other detrimental surface conditions must have their surface impairments properly described. This is done using NGC Details Grading, a service performed automatically when applicable. Coins with detrimental surface conditions are described using Details Grades that accord to the level of wear and descriptions of their impairments. They are then encapsulated using a distinctive purple NGC Details Grading label.

There are other coins that cannot be encapsulated by NGC at the determination of NGC coin graders. These include coins that are not genuine or have altered dates or mintmarks".

I second all the above that has been said.  I'm glad you are doing well and back home.  

On 4/23/2022 at 3:36 PM, tj96 said:

@GBrad I like it as well.  Do you think your friend will submit it to a TPG'er?

Hey TJ.  Yes, he is in the process of trying to see who will take this thing for attribution.  I actually just got done talking with him about submitting it sooner than later.  I will keep everyone posted as to what the outcome is for him (that may be a month or so...... as usual).  Thanks!

On 4/23/2022 at 11:19 AM, ronnie stein said:

 Come on GBrad, come back home. Don't forget where you were raised. Lol. Let us know how this one turns out, and your other discoveries as well. You've got a lot going on. Good luck Detective Bradford.

Hey Ronnie!  Glad to be back here chatting with my "buds".  I do have A LOT going on these days in every aspect of life.  Going to try to spend more time here on the forum; A place I will always call "Home".  I would never turn my back on this forum even though I am not as involved as I once was (hopefully that will change).  I have made too many valuable friends and connections here that I hold dear to my heart.  Thanks my friend!

On 4/18/2022 at 12:22 PM, Hoghead515 said:

Looks good to me brother. 

Thanks! If only it was my coin....argh.... It's all good though. I am more than glad to help out a friend, and fellow collector, in potentially having a new variety listed.  

On 4/18/2022 at 11:36 AM, RWB said:

Tails of 9s and 6 all have splits -- very likely a doubled die. Definitely clearer than the very minor ones usually seen. Got to check my old 1969 rolls.

Thanks Roger.  I believe this one is going to pass the test. 

On 4/18/2022 at 8:27 AM, J P Mashoke said:

Welcome back Greg, It is hard to see the Liberty, The L looks odd and are there splits on the E and T ? I love the 9 tails for sure that's cool. I hope it gets a new listing.

Thank you JP, I appreciate it.  Splits on LIBERTY are difficult to see in the pic but I believe they are there.  Still waiting on some better pictures of those areas.    

On 4/17/2022 at 11:55 PM, Coinbuf said:

@GBrad It looks good and I think there is a very good possibility as a new DDO.   The mm is the only thing that gives pause as it does not look to be an RPM to me.   Have you posted it on the CONECA forum yet for any feedback?

Nice to see you are well.

Hey Coinbuf. First of all thank you and nice to be back here with you guys.  I have not posted this coin aanywhere else except here.  The RPM was a potential bonus but without the coin in hand, I cannot tell for sure.  I believe the date is a winner on this one and LIBERTY may be too. Hopefully my friend may have found a first for this year and mint.  

I have sent in several other coins to be attributed but never a modern Cent.  Do you know who attributes Cents these day?  I know Brian Ribar does Wexler's DD's for Nickels and Dan Griffin does Wexler's RPM's but I'm not sure who this would need to go to if submitted for attribution.  Any advice is appreciated. Thanks!

On 4/17/2022 at 2:34 PM, Lem E said:

Welcome back brother.

Thank you Lem!! 

On 4/2/2022 at 8:32 PM, Hoghead515 said:

I should have saved them for referance but I never thought and put them back in circulation.

Great Hog.... JUST GREAT!!!!! And one of those coins you "put back into circ." just happened to find its way in the pocket of a newb here on the forum. As a result, it upset them because they were already MEGA RICH in their own mind from this "one of a kind error".  Super job brother!!!! 

(just couldn't resist bustin your chops my friend with some humor.... I've been away from the forum for awhile handling some other things.  Good to be back)👍

On 3/2/2022 at 10:42 AM, tj96 said:

It should be....

Butt (pun intended), is that some type of Pareidolia I'm seeing there?

Yes, I forgot the extra T...

On 3/1/2022 at 6:17 PM, VKurtB said:

Yeah but you didn’t see me in full pirate regalia in Atlanta for Treasure Trivia, did you?

Thank goodness I didn't see that......

On 3/1/2022 at 2:45 PM, Mr.Bill347 said:

Thanks GBrad,no I didn’t see any doubling either. Just saw the contrasting sharp points and weak points and that seemed to jump out at me. Why. Not that it is anything remarkable but just found it odd.

thanks again

You're welcome Bill.  Usually, with these horrid copper plated zincolns, there's normally other things associated with later die states but not always the case.  Stuff like ridge rings (usually on the obverse), split plating (sometimes), die deterioration doubling, etc....., you get the picture here, are usually seen.  But just based on what your pictures shows, I'd put it in the stage I mentioned due to the lack of detail on certain aspects of your Cent.  Just my opinion though.    

On 3/1/2022 at 1:00 PM, The Neophyte Numismatist said:

Have you ever seen anything crazy at a coin show?

Actually I have. I saw VKurtB at a coin show!   Oh my.... I just couldn't resist.  Sorry Kurt....... obviously all in fun my friend.  You know my respect for you.  

Hey Bill. In my opinion, this is a LDS coin.  I say this because it appears that your coin has seen quite a bit of polishing (predominately STATES) and the little Lincoln statue on the reverse is barely visible which could be from a lot of polishing as well as just simply a worn out die.  Are you asking if this is a DDR?  I know the VV picture you supplied is DDR-001 listed by them but I'm not seeing it on your coin due to the obscurity and minimal relief on little Linc.  

On 2/22/2022 at 5:37 PM, RWB said:

Thanks for the kind thoughts! I don't really have a coin collection....It's all research files both paper and digital. nothing was affected It was a small A/C drain pipe in the basement unit that clogged. The water, although a fairly small amount ruined all the carpeting paint and part of the drywall, plus some framing at the walkout door. Fortunately insurance covered all except the deductible.

Thanks for the comment earlier RWB.  I forgot to comment, sorry.  My water issue was not from flooding, something different which wound up not causing too much damage, thankfully.  I live in the mountains so if I get flooded then it's been a bad day for humankind in general.  

I know exactly what you are talking about regarding your A/C drain pipe.  That little condensation pump and drain pipe can wreak havoc when either fails as you unfortunately know.  It's amazing how much water an A/C unit produces and how much water damage a faulty pump or drain line can do. Sorry that happened to you Roger. I urge EVERYONE to inspect their condensation pumps yearly so that the same thing doesn't happen that happened to you, Roger.  I actually ran my A/C condensation pump drain line into my swimming pool just to capture the water instead of it draining on the ground.  

On 2/21/2022 at 7:41 PM, RWB said:

Unfortunately, I only found one "dolia" in my christmas stocking, and not a pareidolia. But that was better then the can of 10W30 I got last year.

I couldn't resist this one Roger (especially after the torrential rains have wreaked havoc on my house, I have finally calmed down from this fact, and have now just sat down in front of my laptop):

That must have been ONE BIG STOCKING you had there for Christmas!!! "Dolia (Odia: ଡୋଲିଆ) is a village in the Dhenkanal district of the Indian state of Odisha "  And.... if you got a 'can' of 10W30, that was one heckuva really old can of motor oil.  You sure it wasn't DW40? That stuff comes in a can and is the mathematical equivalent of 10+30, taking the W and rearranging it in the formula, and then simply adding a D....

Oh my... just my late night observation here on the forum once again (obviously after my wife administered me my meds....)  I need to get more active during the day it appears. That is if NGC does not delete me because my debit card on file with them expired and I received a notice today regarding this issue.  

BTW Roger- Completely all in fun here my friend.👍

On 2/20/2022 at 2:56 PM, tj96 said:

TJ, I'm wondering if anyone has yet to "get" this one? It looks very disturbing no doubt.  There's no likes on this original picture and post of yours (except mine which I emoji laughed at) and was not out of disrespect for this poor little "HUNGRY" girl.......... Hope you don't mind me throwing this 'clue' out here because I would NEVER laugh at a crippled, disfigured or handicap person!!  

Looks like the reverse of 1938 based off your pics (if I am seeing this correctly?) which is definitely the rarer of the two.  If you use one of the variety websites, make sure you are comparing apples to apples.  Just FYI.

Edit to add: No, it does not appear to be the "biggie" DDR FS-801 as mentioned.  But there are several other recognized DDR's for this year that are listed on Varietyvista.com.  Just wanted to clarify this.