GBrad

On 9/20/2022 at 8:21 PM, The Neophyte Numismatist said:

Thanks for all the replies, guys.  I like getting all the different perspectives in the room.  Like I said above, my experience is very limited and mostly based on half cent varieties.  So this is good for a more well-rounded education.

Great post and question TNN!  I too like the thoughts and opinions on this topic of "future rarity".  I learned something here as well. Thanks for the post.

On 9/20/2022 at 9:22 PM, Lem E said:

I see several No FG coins accompanied by the floating roof. Are these usually found together on most of the No FG coins or are there multiple die pairs that struck these coins with some having the floating roof and some not? 

Hello Lem.  I'll chime in here. The lack of (or missing) design elements is simply the result of an over-polished die. If a Cent is missing the FG, it should also be missing the "roof supports" since they are some of the lowest relief design elements on a LMC. I personally have never seen a true No FG Cent that did not have a floating roof.  

https://www.ngccoin.com/variety-plus/united-states/cents/lincoln-cents-memorial-reverse-1959-2008/815229/?page=1

On 9/16/2022 at 8:13 AM, J P M said:

 I took a look at the feeder scratches and they are not quite as large as these groves. These are in the die for sure maybe just a extreme example.

Hey JP. Just my humble newbie input here and I'm sure I will be corrected if I am wrong..... Feeder finger damage typically creates scratches or noticeable gouges on the reverse die which typically get worse over time as the face of the anvil die is continually scratched by an improperly aligned/functioning feeder finger.  In 1992, the mint had not yet dedicated to inverting their dies (meaning the obverse die was the anvil die and the reverse die was the hammer die).  The mint eventually, for the most part, switched to inverted dies several years later as well as switching to the German made Schuler press. I am not quite sure exactly what a feed finger design and its nomenclature looked like on the Bliss press which I am fairly certain was used in 1992 to strike your coin.  I highly suspect the obverse/hammer die (regarding your coin) momentarily struck a malfunctioning feed finger stuck within the striking chamber while void of a planchet. This caused the damage to the obverse die that was in turn transferred to your coin and all other ensuing coins struck from the same damaged obverse die. There's no doubt the series of raised lines on your coin was caused by die damage.  It think is a very cool example though and I like it! 👍 

On 9/14/2022 at 7:37 PM, Lem E said:

My parents had a “woodie” station wagon, but it was not the old surfboards on top type. It was more of the National Lampoon’s Family Truckster type only in red. 

"Sorry folks, park is closed, the moose should have told you outside"....... Oh my!!!! That is iconic!  Great movie.  (Sorry to go off topic here, my apologies, I just could not resist)

I deleted my original comment out of respect to the author even though I had no intent to be disrespectful by simply saying, "Maybe that should be a hint". It was meant to be a joke, but I can now see how it also could be construed as being a smart remark.   What @JKK said later down this thread, I believe, could not be more correct, nor well written.  Thank you for bringing up that point JKK.👌

On 9/11/2022 at 11:08 AM, RWB said:

  Photo? Free vouchers? You've got to be kidding....Whitman is the publisher...Ever see a free voucher from them? Heck, I don't get anything when they sell a book.

Never hurts to ask.

On 9/7/2022 at 4:49 PM, JKK said:

Can't help you. I like cucumbres but not so much pickels.

Sorry, couldn't resist JKK...... all in fun my friend. (**Please don't blackball me**)

On 9/10/2022 at 8:50 PM, RWB said:

A Guide Book to Peace Dollars, by me

Hey Roger, you need a profile pic on Amazon!! Got any free vouchers?? Times are tough and money is tight these days.......😁

On 8/29/2022 at 2:59 PM, Lem E said:

It is a small date but looks like a zinc coin. You might want to test your scale.

Ya know.... while nothing is impossible (I try to be optimistic as in "my glass is half full"), it is kinda like @J P M said, "Well the odds are astronomical". I think that pretty much sums it up here due to the simple fact that over 6 BILLION 1982-D LMC's were struck which accounts for both large and small dates combined.  However, if... just if.... the author hit the lottery here (which I am going to be very skeptical about until spot on weights are posted and if weight is correct, then on to is it actually a legit minted coin, no offense OP) those rings of death would be absolutely typical of my type of luck....😆

On 8/29/2022 at 2:31 PM, Nysmith9 said:

Thank you for this it really narrows it down, looking at mine would you send it in under the parameters? 

Can you please supply a good clear picture of the reverse? Obviously, you know enough about this date and mint mark to have posted this particular coin, on a scale. By the looks of the mint mark with what appears to be zinc rot, and the top of the ear displaying a different color, I'm not convinced this is a copper cent.  Also, please make sure your scale is properly calibrated. Thanks! 

Who doesn't like Braveheart!!!!! My newest addition.  

Hello @J P M. There's a lot of DDO and some DDR varieties for this date.  Look very closely my friend as some of the doubling is very hard to see.  Very nice coin too!!!

On 8/24/2022 at 6:03 PM, ronnie stein said:

GBrad,, you are correct on the math. You need to know, that after 40 years old you should always deduct 10 years from the age of a lady. My mother taught me that one. My neighbor likes to do just the opposite with men. He'll ask "Were you in the 'police action' Korean war"? Knowing full well they were born in the late 50's, he likes to see their expression. 

 

 

GOOD GRIEF MAN!!!! Where are my manners!!! I’m a southern boy and I completely dropped the ball on that one. I know better!! You are correct. 43, more like 33, it is!!👍

On 8/24/2022 at 3:17 PM, J P M said:

LoL that was the first thing I saw was the close AM, Brad but it would not matter anyway it is just to damaged for anything

100% correct JP. That coin is beyond damaged and it would not matter even if it was a CAM. I just have this dream, pretty much more like a nightmare, every now and then about finding a fairly valuable coin and it looking like this one (the true side effects of being an error and variety collector). Bottom line here is this: It does not matter. Thanks for the comment my friend. 

Thank goodness that joker wasn't a CAM, Phew.....!!!!!  I "think" the A in STATES is centered (surely it's not favoring the right side T is it?) because you sure can't tell much by the way AM is damaged and the proximity of FG is hard to tell for me as well with the building corner damaged as it is.   

On 7/30/2022 at 8:41 AM, ronnie stein said:

 Happy Birthday Karen! 1969 was a great era to be born, and 43 is a wonderful age in life as well. Hang around a little more often. Have a wonderful day!

Well, I'll throw in my belated Happy B'day wishes too Karen!!!  Now..... Ronnie my friend..... I know you and I are both getting older, correct me if I'm wrong because I was never very good in math to begin with....., but wouldn't Karen be 53? I'm really concerned that all the meds (legal that is) have affected my cognitive abilities to count, pal......😂

Been a minute or two since I posted, or even logged on here. Unfortunately, the first thing I see is a newb (referring to "that lil penny guy") getting an attitude and all smart mouthed at a seasoned coin collector trying to help out.  I would urge you to lose the attitude, be much more respectful, and realize that none of the knowledgable veterans on this forum are getting paid, or receiving ANY benefits whatsoever, to help people out like yourself. We gladly donate our time to help others, but with attitudes such as yours, and so many that came before you, it really makes me wonder why we even try sometimes..... Good day.

On 8/15/2022 at 11:05 PM, Phil1955 said:

  my question is can they be sent in if in terrible condition , for instance i have found a 1992 close am you can read the date and see the leg of the A touching the M BUT THE GREAT ZINC rot has almost destroyed the coin 

If this coin you speak of has that much rot on it, and if it is affecting the AM, how can you tell it is close?  There are numerous other diagnostics in which to validate a 1992 CAM (or any WAM as well) which can sometimes be more accurate than the AM itself.  But..... as said numerous times already, we cannot help you without pictures. 

On 8/17/2022 at 6:12 AM, Fenntucky Mike said:

appears to be a details coin with some graffiti on the cap

Yup!  Great eye there!  I too see what you are talking about. 

Very nice coin Bill!  ZLincoln has confused me though.

Would be better to supply entire obverse and reverse pics for a question like this even though I'm not sure what benefit is gained by answering your question.  I see the die chip, but.........

On 8/11/2022 at 12:42 PM, Lem E said:

Thanks for taking a look. The only reason I said that was because I have a 40S DDO and it looks similar to this one. Particularly the thick “In god we trust” and date. 

Absolutely Lem, I really appreciate the tag my friend. By no means am I saying this is not a DDO, it very well could be. I’m on my phone at the moment, waiting at the docs office…. what fun🙄…., and had a little more time to look at @CoffeeTime’s coin a little better. Wish I was on my laptop cause these phone pics get pixelated. 
 

The one thing I have noticed as a characteristic, or diagnostic if you will, of this year and mint DDO’s is the appearance of the E in WE. The bottom bar of the E seems to be noticeably lower in comparison to the bottom of the W than that of a non-variety for this year and mint. Just an observation I thought I’d throw out there. 
 

The E on the author’s coin does appear to have quite a bit of excess material on the bottom bar which is definitely consistent with the variety you mentioned. I say this regardless of the amount of potential circulation wear that this coin has seen simply due to what appearance to be an abundance of metal there. Best advice is to seek a good professional coin dealer versed in varieties and have them look at it. Best of luck cofeetime as I LOVE ME SOME GOOD OL’ DOUBLED DIES!!!!!😁

On 8/10/2022 at 9:51 PM, Lem E said:

This looks to have some thickness on the date (40) and (IN GOD WE TRUST). You might check for a DDO on this one. Maybe DDO-005? (VARIETY VISTA) I could be wrong, but there is no harm in giving it a quick check. Nice looking for a roll find. Where is @GBrad when you need him?

 

Hey Lem.  Thank you for the nice comment.  I can see what looks like possible extra thickness in IGWT, but as QA said, it could very well just be some flattening from circulation. Just too difficult to make a call based on the pictures. The mint mark placement appears to be very close in its placement and orientation (maybe a bit low though) for the variety you mentioned, but still too difficult of call to make.  Regardless, that is one nice find in the wild!!