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...and he made it through the storm unharmed. Cool Beans! He then finished his journey well rested

thirty-seven? Hell why go through all the effort? If I find what you write to be inane I just stop reading it. Easy.

I am very glad to be wrong on this one

It is a nice coin, I like it , but it would likely not straight glade

I hope you are right @James_OldeTowne

it looks like machine doubling to me but there are several DD for this year check variety vista

bringing this back to the top. I want to know what the marks are

It could be. It would be hard to convince someone to pay a high premium for it I would think.

I would not call the dealer lazy. I am sure he made his money on the other coins from his buy. Doing research on every single coin is often cost prohibitive. He could have bought the Peruvian centavos along with a nice collection of high grade gold and Reales. He made his money on the good stuff then looked up the zinc centavos just to find that most of them were not worth more than 30 cents each. He figured he had made his money and did not need to squeeze every cent from the rest. It is often better business to let someone make a buck or two off you than to spend time and money searching for a needle in a haystack.

It looks like it had something spilled on it while other coins were on it causing the arc shape. It is worth face value only

Have you had a TPG look at this? I have no further thoughts on it. I gave what I thought and you have shown where I am missing the facts, that is cool I am used to being wrong. I would be interested in what another expert thinks as Fred W thought it was post mint damage and you think otherwise.

well, this is intriguing. I can do nothing but guess on this one. I see what looks like corrosion but only in the field. i see what looks like marks from other coins but only on the device. I can give no intelligent guesses.

See if you can find it here. http://www.varietyvista.com/index.htm

I think that much if not all of the visible damage in the picture is post mint damage. I am not sure of a minting process that would cause such damage. I think the coin has had at least two encounters. One could possibly have been before striking. You have the coin rotated 90% to the right, by the way. The damage near the top of the coin looks like it was done with a small cutting wheel or other abrasive surface. The damage along the rim that goes down toward the lower rim looks older, and of another cause. I very well could be wrong so I await a better theory.

another over hyped, under designed, overpriced, mint disaster in the making.

I think this coin was caught or jammed into a machine such as a coin accepter/rejecter soon after it started circulation. If the rejecter mechanism had a pushing finger with a face rounded to the same diameter and it pushed against this coin when it was jammed it may have caused this damage. I worked at a payphone company in the nineties and saw many mangled coins in payphones, I cannot say for sure this was caused the damage but it could be possible. Especially as the left side as we view it looks to have been cut from the the bottom of the coin by a cutter moving upward towards the top of the coin causing the ragged appearance.

it is interesting but a cud is on the rim

I don't know if all what you say is true, @ProfHaroldHill, what I do know is that it looks similar to your buffalo nickel that Fred Weinberg called PMD I have to give you point #2 as many, but not all coins claimed to be partial clips have cuts on both faces. https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/860931/an-example-of-a-incomplete-clip-planchet-mint-error I am surprised that they use two cutting surfaces as one sharp cutting surface often leaves a cleaner cut

whatever it is supposed to show it doesn't. Try cropping the pic and enlarging, oh yeah and giving us a hint of what you see

I have two difficulties accepting your explanation of the curved line. 1. The curved line on the obverse follows a single arc until it hits the upturned rim then it changes direction into a different arc. If this occurred before the rim was upset the angle of the arc should not change but it would end into the upsetting. 2. There is a matching (or Nearly matching) arc on the reverse. Every punching tool that I have encountered has one cutting edge and one shear edge, not two cutting edges. Therefore I doubt that this was caused at the mint and would need further proof, or a further explanation of this.

A mill worker in 1894 averaged $1.50 per day for a 10 hour day. So for an hour or so of work he could reap most of a day's pay. Problem was to have 45 day's pay on hand to get a $20 coin.

I could tell you exactly what happened to it, but then I would have to kill you, and I just do not have the energy for that tonight, Suffice it to say it involved two brothers who owned a certain bicycle shop, ghosts, aliens, and a deep government cover-up.

What has your research told you on this?

these were sold at Strawberry Banke, Sturbridge Village, Museums, and most Fourth of July, Old Home Days, and Bicentennial celebrations in New England throughout the mid 1970's. I would not be surprised if they can still be bought in bulk. Compare your coin to the picture of the genuine coin above. The circles on yours are less true, your details are not as sharp and the surface on yours is rough and rather sloppy. Typical of the replicas sold at the time.

Thank you, RWB, thank you. So many times I have argued with people who claim they can see a difference in "shell casing pennies". It drives me nuts