GoldFinger1969

Not sure how readable newspapers would be 50 or 100 years or more after they probably been stored in a non-controlled environment. Microfiche was available in the 1920's I believe.

Nellie was governor of Wyoming and lived to be 101...as my grandfather would say, she got her money's worth out of Social Security (and her pension, too !! ).

Shop around....that seems excessive. If the guy knows who you are and what's on it, they jack up the price. My friend got quoted like $5,000 a few years ago because his business is well-known in the area. Shopped around....excercised patience....got it done for like $1,200 or something like that, 75% savings.

Looks like a basement but CB can tell us for sure. Lots of places with smaller basements charge less than the larger, more spacious main entrance hall. The Westchester County Show used to be in the basement 3 times a year, only the bigger show in November has the 1st-floor larger hall.

That's something that shocked me when I learned it from the vets online.....how basically the dealers make their day/weekend in the first hour before the shows open. Anything from the public is just gravy. Would never have known that.

Do they think the drives are recoverable ? It's usually just a question of $$$ unless the thing was smashed and dipped in acid.

All I had gone to was small locals until FUN 2020. That was a blast -- the talks, the workshops (didn't do them but will in the future), the chance to meet people I've talked to on the Internet for years. Even if you don't go every year all serious collectors should give it a shot at least once. If you go to a big national or regional show and are staying there multiple days, try and stay in the same hotel with your friends or anybody you were planning on meeting (like forum pals). Lots of down time....if you are in the same hotel, you can hang pretty easy. My 1st time at FUN, I was in a separate hotel from alot of the guys I wanted to spend time with and meet for quickie lunches or drinks or just hanging out in the lounge.

Nellie Tayloe Ross and Margaret O'Reilly were two fascinating and interesting women. God Bless !

They're fun...especially the larger ones with workshops, ability to meet up with (internet) friends, meet dealers and authors, auction houses, etc.

In the past, some dealers may have HAD to go to shows to Keep Up With The Joneses (other dealers). They may find out they don't have to: over the past year, most probably had higher revenues and lower expenses. Nirvana ! But if my understanding of the business is correct.....(1) dealer-to-dealer transactions are crucial, especially at the big shows and (2) you never know when the small purchaser at the show will get the collecting bug and be a loyal customer for years. So we have 2 competing forces and we'll have to see which pans out over the year as more people get vaccinated and Covid-19 burns itself out.

Great points, Roger. And true !

Argghh....a double-digital failure. Good luck, keep me posted ! Maybe I'll just tabulate all the MS65 and above data.

Any books or articles on these Roosters for beginners ? Sort of a .... Roosters For Dummies ?

Yeah, there had to have been lots of inter-office memos on stuff we debate endlessly....like the 1933 Saints that got out of the Mint....the 1928 DE's that got stolen.....etc. Imagine hearing the higher-ups thoughts on paper as they wrote back to one another or to counterparts in other Mints or the Treasury in Washington. Damn..........

Thanks for the update, CB......had you gone to this show in the past ? How was dealer and public attendance back then ? Dealers happy today to be back showing stuff and happy with their sales/attendance ? Of course, not sure how it works at small shows like this but I hear that at the big shows 80% of the business is dealer-to-dealer BEFORE the show starts.

That's it, thanks Roger ....not sure where I read it, maybe it was one of your posts, RWB.....what a fiasco. You wonder if she was ordered to do it because higher-ups knew what some of the papers might reveal.

If I or someone cracks out a coin, then sends it to the OTHER TPG (the one that didn't grade/slab it)....don't I run the risk of getting a lower grade ? What then ?

TPGs ?

I use Crayola Crayons.......

Weren't there tons of papers from the Philly Mint that got destroyed in the 1970's ? I thought I read it somewhere....some woman ordered their destruction, like 90% of all the papers over the decades ?

What were they cracking out at 2019 ANA ? I would think at this point in time the number of Saint crack-outs would be dwindling, no ? Most of the low-hanging fruit would be picked I would think.

Who is doing the cracking -- the TPG or the owner ? Doesn't the owner send in the coin in the slab and only tell them to re-holder it IF it grades higher ?

Roger, is it possible to get the breakdown in your population census calculations for the coins that graded MS60-62 ? Your population census has data for CIRCULATED - MS62. So no idea what the MS60-62 coins comprise of that total. If you don't have that information, are there percentage splits that the MS60-62 coins comprise of the total Circulated-MS62 for various rarity grades ? Ovbviously, I would expect circulated coins to be a larger percentage for a rare coin since it has monetary value as opposed to generic commons. I was trying to construct a table comparing the population census in total and for Mint State grades for your book vs. Akers/Ambio vs. Bowers.....to see how the numbers changed over time. Might also try and uncover the old PCGS Population Census booklet and NGC's equivalent (if they have it) for maybe the mid-1990s as an added reference point.

VERY interesting, absolutely. I am looking forward to seeing what attendance is like.....did increased on-line bidding and registrations increase the number of serious coin collectors willing to go to a local 1-day show.....larger regional shows like Whitman Baltimore....or maybe one of the huge national shows like FUN ? I'll be checking out the local Garden State Parsippany Show in early-May (assuming it's back on). Ditto another local, the Mt. Kisco (NY) Show which is relatively new but seemed to be eclipsing the older Westchester Coin & Stamp Show before Covid hit (I went right in February 2020 before the pandemic got out of control).....more dealers, nicer venue......finally, want to hit Whitman Baltimore for the 1st time and of course, $$$-permitting, FUN 2022.

The article states that this is only the 2nd coin to be graded/certified but not put into a holder. I could be wrong, but the examples you cite seemed to be for special situations. It appears that PCGS and NGC official policy is to slab anything that gets a grade. Maybe it wasn't the case decades/years ago, but it is now. Certainly, with a "common" coin like a Saint, there'd be no reason to not slab it -- hence the special exemption granted.