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On 9/7/2023 at 6:22 PM, zadok said:

...hate to rain on ur parade QA, but i dont think this new stickering endeavor accepts foreign coins...also if im not mistaken a parade consists of more than one participant....

No stickering yet, but with a growing market - it may not be long. Stacks or someone else. You have Wings, but that has never really taken off. If there is money to be made - someone will eventually make it.

September 6, 2023

Stack’s Bowers Galleries Partners with Professional Coin Grading Service (PCGS) Founder David Hall to Launch Collectible Market Qualified (CMQ) Offering

Stack’s Bowers Galleries to Rollout Coins In Motion (CIM) Animation Technology to its Collector and Dealer Customer Base in Calendar Fourth Quarter 2023

Costa Mesa, CA – Stack’s Bowers Galleries, the renowned numismatic auction house, and David Hall, the esteemed founder of Professional Coin Grading Service (PCGS), have partnered to introduce Collectible Market Qualified (CMQ), a new service offering that identifies the highest quality graded coins in the market.

Utilizing CMQ’s services, collectors, dealers, and investors can submit qualifying coins to be evaluated by David Hall and Stack’s Bowers Galleries’ CEO Greg Roberts, two of the most accomplished numismatists of all-time. Hall and Roberts will assess each coin for its quality, eye appeal and grade. Coins that Hall and Roberts unanimously agree meet CMQ’s rigorous standards will be recognized as “qualified” and granted a tamper-resistant hologram sticker, symbolizing a mark of approval.

CMQ stickered coins are designed to instill confidence in a coin’s quality and facilitate “sight unseen” trading. Stack’s Bowers Galleries’ and David Hall Rare Coins’ trading departments, who collectively buy and sell more than $500 million in rare coins annually, will be active market makers in all CMQ stickered coins, providing added demand and liquidity. Collectors, dealers, and investors in rare coins can have a new level of confidence when buying or selling CMQ stickered coins because they have unanimously met or exceeded Hall’s and Robert’s rigorous standards.

“Collectors and dealers can rest assured that no marginally graded or negative eye appeal coins will ever exhibit a CMQ sticker, providing a new level of confidence when buying or selling CMQ qualified coins,” commented Hall.

CMQ will offer two levels of stickers – CMQ and CMQ-X. Collectible Market Qualified Exceptional (CMQ-X) stickers will be assigned to a small percentage of coins that, “make you shake your head in wonderment,” added Hall. Each coin submitted for CMQ review will be photographed by Stack’s Bowers Galleries’ award-winning photography department and these images will be available in submitters’ online accounts.

CMQ will begin accepting coin submissions on September 6, 2023. For information on what coins are eligible, how to submit coins, pricing, and other inquiries, please visit https://cmq.stacksbowers.com/.

Additionally, Stack’s Bowers Galleries will be making its proprietary and patented Coins In Motion (CIM) high resolution collectible animation technology available to all collectors and dealers in the fourth quarter of 2023. Utilizing the same submission process as CMQ, collectors and dealers will receive ultra-high resolution 4K MP4 video animations of their submitted coins, ideally formatted for sharing on social media, including in collection management systems or to facilitate buying and selling.

thoughts?

The Sotheby’s auction was not all that impressive, but a later auction in 1968 occurred featuring ancients. Doyle wasn’t a big time collector. Still an  interesting story. A few images below are from the second auction.

Best of luck

On 8/28/2023 at 1:28 PM, Henri Charriere said:

Going back to the 1964-1965 World's Fair in New York, it was my understanding that the items buring in the time capsule there were to give to be "representative" of life as lived then. A daily newspaper, a music album (perhaps The Beatles) and similar artifacts illustrating what life was like at the time.  A great many such time capsules take the same approach, using ordinary, everyday objects that would give someone in the future a look back at life as it was lived at that time.  Many very interesting things have been found in such "vaults" and "cornerstones," but nothing to my knowledge having great value.  If coins and currency were included, they would likely be circulated. No rare Proof coins or Exceptional Paper Quality banknotes.

Time capsules are really for historical value, not rarities or precious anything. One cornerstone that may have something of value is the San Francisco Mint cornerstone. Possibly a couple rarities in it - if ever found. 

In this current time capsule, anything in that lead box is dust. Oh, well… a coin of the time would have been nice.
 

On 8/28/2023 at 12:06 PM, J P M said:

It looks empty ?

Yep. Some debris at the bottom could be decomposed something, or just sludge. There was a possible breach in one of the bottom seams that could have let some water/moisture in. The plate at the top was made by E. W. Banks (or something like that).  Maybe it was a big hoax (doubt it) or maybe Geraldo got to it first (kidding of course). It was still fun watching and watching those that held great expectations. 

Nice presentation, disappointing results:

Very Nice find. I was looking at the original Iverson research (booklet) and at that time there was not an example shown for L4. One of the interesting things for your coin is that the British added a little silver to the alloy, rather than just copper - which was standard practice at the time, and that’s why it has a little yellowish to it. Marsh died before he could really research the Jubilee series for varieties. There are many as you know from the past couple of Marsh/Hill books that were updated with Iverson’s research. 

I do agree with your attribution. 


 

On 8/21/2023 at 5:10 PM, Boo60 said:

Hi all,

I have an 1887 MS61 gold sovereign graded by NGC. I am sure this is a Marsh rarity (Hooked J DISH 4) and I have seen some gold coins that have the Marsh rarity number on the slab when graded by NGC. How do you send a slabbed coin in for checking when it comes to a Marsh rarity like this? I assume I select Variety plus on the form, but how do I indicate the Marsh code and do I select the reholder option? Can I send this in with other coins or does it have to be on a separate form?

A picture of the rarity is attached.

Thanks in advance. 

  I would contact NGC and discuss before sending it in. I am not sure who at NGC responsible for varieties these days. 1887s are an interesting bunch. They would determine the variety, but you can write on the submission form what you believe it to be.  
   If you wouldn’t mind, please attach images of the complete obverse and reverse. By stating Dish 4, I am assuming you mean Dish.L4 and not Dish.S4 or Dish.M4.

On 8/17/2023 at 1:39 PM, RWB said:

Ya' got me stumped, there. I know nothing about these and other silver tokens or medals. Sorry.

[The quote on the medal is widely confused. Here is the full text:

Article I, Section 10, Clause 1:

No State shall enter into any Treaty, Alliance, or Confederation; grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal; coin Money; emit Bills of Credit; make any Thing but gold and silver Coin a Tender in Payment of Debts; pass any Bill of Attainder, ex post facto Law, or Law impairing the Obligation of Contracts, or grant any Title of Nobility.

This clause refers specifically to actions prohibited to individual states, not to the Federal Government. States may issue bills of credit, bonds, certificates of indebtedness, etc.]

Yep, but that would be a lot to fit on a round. 

I know.

On 8/16/2023 at 1:27 AM, GoldFinger1969 said:

It "owned" gold before FDR's EO that mandated it transfer it to the Treasury.  Most of the Fed higher-ups objected.

I don’t think so!

disregard I misread your comment. Sorry.

On 8/16/2023 at 5:54 PM, VKurtB said:

I also picked up two better acquisitions. 1) a 1797 “cartwheel” tuppence in XF (raw), and 2) an 1825 British shilling in AU-ish (also raw). I picked up no fewer than 6 NGC Sample slabs.

Let’s see the 1797 please 

On 8/16/2023 at 6:00 PM, VKurtB said:

Printing errors coming out of the ANA are legion lately. The Summer Seminar Student Handbook, this banquet ticket, and the National Volunteer newsletter - all loaded with errors. There are only about 30 people at ANA HQ, and the ones with greater experience have been let go. Very young, very inexperienced people are what is left, below management level.

What? Autocorrect doesn’t correct substance errors? 

On 8/15/2023 at 8:51 PM, GoldFinger1969 said:

A congressional delegation conducted an audit in 1975 or 1976.  It included Ron Paul and other "gold bugs."

 

But no audit since then.

On 8/15/2023 at 8:49 AM, World Colonial said:

The lopsided proportion of Australian coins in holders are NCLT.  Last I checked, PCGS graded more than NGC for pre-decimal (one of the few) but it's a very low fraction of the total.

I have seen almost zero TPG coins in Noble Numismatics' auctions who I understand is the largest firm in the country.  Someone told me it's due to export requirements (which makes no sense to me) but doesn't seem prevalent there, except by financially motivated buyers.  I also suspect that at least a noticeable minority if not majority of NCLT is possibly owned by Americans, not necessarily locally.

Two of the more well known dealers primarily sell PCGS graded coins, mainly pre-decimal. Never had an issue with buying or selling to Australia. A good portion of their sales goes to the US and UK.

Maybe Australia

On 8/14/2023 at 9:24 PM, RWB said:

I have some original documents for you. They total 76 meg. If you PM your email I will upload them to Dropbox so you can get them.

Will do - thanks

On 8/14/2023 at 7:36 PM, zadok said:

...yes an interesting subject, i do remember seeing those coins when i was doing some cataloging there n i do not recall that their origin was recorded but that wasnt an area i was involved with...that was several moons ago n its possible that more info has been discovered as to acquisition....

According to the Smithsonian curator, they are not sure of the origin, just that they represent like sovereigns that were donated and melted.

Here’s a question of mine, not a top numismatic question, but one of interest that does not directly concern U.S. coinage, but a U.S. institution. 
      James Smithson, an Englishman that never visited America, donated 104,960, or 105 bags, of newly minted 1838 sovereigns bearing the portrait of young Queen Victoria that led to the building of the Smithsonian. Most, if not all, of the sovereigns were melted and coined into half and quarter U.S. eagles. The Smithsonian currently displays two 1838 sovereigns, but cannot determine whether the two sovereigns were part of the original Smithson donation or were acquired later.

  I would love to find out the origins of the two sovereigns. So far, I have been unable to determine their origin.

From a recent book title - Where Did All Thr Dough Go? Or more precisely, where did all my dough go? 

Sorry Roger, couldn’t resist.
 

On 8/13/2023 at 3:23 PM, Ohnoimbroke said:

Why does ANACS & old NGC holders go for cheaper price ? Does ANACS over grade ? What about the old NGC holders go way cheaper ? Thankx

Im not sure you have looked at enough of them or analyzed the coins within. There are many variables which you have not stated - so there can be no reasonable responses. What are you basing your observations on? Sample size, specific examples are needed.