numisport

How can these coins be classified as errors if they were obviously struck on purpose in a clandestine fashion.

As always your explanation is very well presented. It makes me wonder then what happens when any contractor cannot supply the agreed amount of processed material within the time frame needed to meet production demands. What penalties could be imposed and how might it effect future bids ?

The amount of steel needed for these coins would have been small compared to military and ship building requirements but I suppose the resources needed for the processing of planchets could have been disruptive. Take note of the huge quantities of iron [taconite] hauled across the great lakes to build stuff in Detroit and Pittsburg. Remember later in the 60's the Edmund Fitzgerald went down in water that wasn't as deep as the ship is long ? Pretty sure thousands of tons of ore still lay at the bottom to this day.

On a different note can anybody tell me with some sanity as to why the U.S. Mint cannot seem to keep silver on hand to satisfy demands for production of collector coins that were scheduled far ahead. Oh I know the typical argument given even when they care not to list a final price due to market fluctuation, and whatever corny excuse they can give us. But I'll bet a few large silver suppliers would love to sell them bulk metal. And I can only guess their suppliers must behave in a politically correct way and adhere to a socially justified footprint in order to do business with the U.S Mint, is that it ?

Assuming a handsome stipend was arranged, why stay long enough to accept responsibility for losses and even legal retribution over actions that were not of his making.

PCGS coin shows that dripping luster I love. But you must applaud NGC for its Star designation as it separates the real money coins from the rest. I love Jeffersons

For an 80-O your coin is well struck, its only attribute.

I certainly agree this coin looks 'off' compared to the 10 now government property. I would rather have an undamaged 63 or 64 with full luster for my type slot.

Can your Registry Set include Details graded coins ?

Sorry I thought the dealer was asked the question

It matters not who the dealer is. I expect a truthful response from the dealer no matter what the circumstance.

There's always a return label included but cannot remember if it is postage paid ?

Sorry to drift away from the original theme but my point was to demonstrate how in some cases (not just proof Ikes) PCGS and NGC coins cannot be judged the same way in registry points so what is the point of allowing them to compete in the same venue. And yes I understand CAC does not evaluate proof Ikes. But seriously remember the 1963 proof Lincoln PCGS graded 70 only to see a spot develop causing a buyback. Common sense tells me that no proof delivered in a pliofilm pack can grade 70, yet they did it.

My guess would be similar MS62. Of course I will comment further..... I recommend choosing an 82, 83, or 84CC as you can afford an MS 65 or even a nice PL coin. As you probably know the 85 CC exists in large numbers and will never be rare or even scarce. That said they are very popular hence the higher price. Besides, for a few bucks more you could buy one 2 grades higher.

Okay here is but one glaring example of why some PCGS coins are not competitive as NGC Registry coins. Look at how many Proof 70 Ikes have been graded. Then look at the price drops and how many people have taken the PCGS bath ! NGC understands just how few proof Ikes would qualify for that 70 grade, thus the low pops. My silver Ikes are Pf 69 Star Ultra Cameo and are the earliest strikes with the heaviest contrast. So when I had my registry set competing for a #1 spot, here comes the PCGS Proof 70 DCams (with less contrast and still not perfect coins) that get more points. So why compete if the playing field is not level ?

I think this levels the playing field after allowing PCGS coins in. There are some sets in the NGC Registry that are mostly (if not all) PCGS coins and yes I deleted my sets as well. Now I may put them back in.

Strike doubling or double die ?

'57 Nickel ? Was it a high grade proof '57 with heavy cameo contrast ?

If the image is the real coin then an explanation from CAC is needed. I've read that one reason CAC is so tough on Saints is the very problem this coin seems to have, actual leg disturbances that are post mint.

You would have taken an image of the contents before you packaged it. While not clear proof of contents you always have declared value and insurance would cover that, that's what you're paying for. Also with registered you should make sure they mark all seams which is why they require paper or kraft tape.

I guess what I meant was that if it was presumed lost, then one person would be responsible at any given location. So if it was last tracked in Memphis let's say, they would know who to ask "where is that registered you had in your possession" ?

I've always sent mine USPS Registered and thought that a signature was required every time my package changed hands. Therefore it could be tracked to a person at any time or it is locked in a safe box with a key

Here's my 76-D T2 nicely toned as well. As you can see these 66s' do have a few contact marks (none heavy though) and consistent with Morgan and Peace dollars in gem + grades. Sorry no intent to derail this thread

Truly incredible coins. Just look at the luster popping and original nickel tone. Very well done. While I don't participate in the registry, I do have registry quality proofs of early Jeffersons I will post sometime. Good images are the hard part though and yours were done well !

I think what you are finding is parking lot damage