Just Bob

You have mentioned, on more than one occasion, the possibility of you getting banned. Posting your coins will never get you banned, but making comments that offend people will. Keep in mind that there are all types of people who read this forum, including ladies and children. An overabundance of comments like the ones below will almost certainly cause problems for you - either in the form of a suspension, or outright banning. Just a heads up. (I personally like your coins. Your humor sometimes goes over my head, but that is just me.) 

On 8/30/2022 at 3:50 PM, CoinJockey73 said:

I know, i know. You're so excited, it's like when you were a little kid and you had to pinch the tip to stop the p from coming out, but a little bit always gets out, and now you've wet your pants a little, and you need something to blame it on, but you got nothin, so you're just standing there and your tighty whities are turning yellow, yeah, so, that's happening to ALL you! 

Here you go, you can stop pinching.

 

 

On 8/30/2022 at 4:00 PM, CoinJockey73 said:

 

looks like someone scraped the poop off their dog's butt with the date part of this poor poor proof. But it's still a proof, suckers!

Remember what you said here:

On 8/30/2022 at 4:28 PM, CoinJockey73 said:

. Clearly I'm not here to offend anyone...

Unless they have started offering these in the last few months and I missed the announcement, this is just an option offered to bulk submitters, and not to the regular submitters. Read the fine print on the page linked above.

On 8/26/2022 at 3:52 PM, EagleRJO said:

If you look closely the ribbon also continues down slightly past the first joint on Libertys' pedestal consistent with a type-2 obverse, instead stopping at that joint as with an earlier type-1 obverse.  But I don't think the ribbon position actually changed from earlier to later date Trade Dollars, it looks like just the joints on the pedestal were changed leading to the different position of the ribbon end.

I think a more telling difference between the earlier and later date Trade Dollars is the reverse, with the latter ones like that being discussed having a clutched arrow tip over the "2" (instead of over the "0") in 420 as well as no berry branch under the eagles' claw on the right side.

 

For the benefit of future readers of this thread: There are actually two recognized  obverse types, and two reverse types. The type one and two obverses can be distinguished by the fingers of the extended hand, and the end of the ribbon. The reverse types are distinguished  by the arrow end and berry, as is stated above. The two obverses were used with both reverses during different years, until 1877, as Sandon stated in his above post.

The different styles and years they were used can be seen on This page

Am I seeing this wrong, or is that not a type one obverse?

The end of the LIBERTY ribbon appears to be pointing to the left, but it may just be the way the picture looks.

That looks like a good addition to your library. 

Question: did the British strike patterns for gold coins in off-metals they way the US mint did/does?

On 8/25/2022 at 9:53 PM, EagleRJO said:

1916 from under the scope, no visible mint mark I could see.

The Indian is facing the wrong way.  

On 8/24/2022 at 2:25 PM, zadok said:

..these qualifers "artificial, accelerated, assisted" r ambiguous words n need to be described to have a clear conversation...

True. I should have given at least a simple definition. Rather than hijack this thread, I will start another one on the subject, if you or others would like to continue the discussion.

On 8/23/2022 at 9:56 PM, Coinbuf said:

The 1807 has a very unnatural look and is without a doubt 100% not original.   If you like it and you did/do not pay a premium for this type of AT look that is all well and fine.   I would suggest that you note in your files or inventory that this coin is AT.

On 8/24/2022 at 11:14 AM, zadok said:

...this subject has no precise answer...toning n the appeal for or the rejection of is purely a personal matter...there is no pluses or minuses listing in any grading guides...preferences for or against have been cyclical over the past few years, especially in the highly manipulated n market oriented morgan series, to lesser degree in the franklins, washington quarters n roosevelt dime series...its pretty much which ever way the market wind blows ($)...in the US collecting sphere most coins especially pre 1900 issues have been cleaned, dipped and/or improved upon at one time or another, after all pretty was deemed better...toning as most know is simply oxidation and the colors mostly dependent upon the environment in which it was subjected or exposed to...toned coins that were dipped or lightly cleaned will retone over time unless protected from their environment, its all natural, the real concern is the AT that is so prevalent in the current market, in virtually every instance this should be a negative regarding pricing n grading, but once again market whims enter into the picture...if one is looking for a precision assessment on toning and/or AT on coins...its just not going to happen....

Do either of you gentlemen differentiate between artificial toning, accelerated natural toning, and "assisted" toning?

Welcome to the forum.

Judging from your pictures, everything that you have circled is damage, most likely from contact with other coins in the mint box or bag. Even the things that look similar to letters are just contact marks that happen to resemble something with which your brain is familiar. Like finding shapes in the clouds.

On 8/24/2022 at 7:13 AM, ldhair said:

Great post. This is what many don't understand about early coins. Most were cleaned at some point. Some retone and are pretty and others turn out ugly. If the cleaning was not harsh and the toning is not funky, they have a good chance of straight grading. 

That's a good point, and an important one to remember. Years ago, cleaning was the norm. Remember the Saltus cyanide incident? That was in 1922. 100 years is plenty of time for a coin to re-tone naturally

"Matte" is a finish, not a color. It describes a surface without shine or reflection, and can be any color, or no color at all.

The current population of NGC graded proof 69UC coins is 633 for the clad,  and 1417 for the silver. Looks like a simple supply and demand issue to me. 

Welcome to the forum 

Way to go, girl!

Keep 'em coming.

On 8/12/2022 at 7:30 PM, Lem E said:

The second coin I posted has a sub# of 207281. I thought I had seen that # and apparently you did too. I’m going to have to assume it is in a gen 9 or a little higher holder. It’s just a little different. I’ll have to find that Conder thread again.

Here is the link. I finally bookmarked it so I wouldn't have to hunt it every time.

https://boards.ngccoin.com/topic/117773-ngc-slab-varieties

I agree with trying to keep the invoices - and even the original packaging, if it is feasible. If I were purchasing your collection, or even one piece, I would certainly appreciate having original documentation - for the history, and for any future use.

On 8/15/2022 at 9:59 PM, Phil1955 said:

I WILL SEND PICTURES AS SOON AS I LEARN HOW 

I feel for you, Brother.

Look at the area below where you type your reply. If on a phone, touch the "Add Files" tab, then find your picture on your phone and touch it, then touch "insert" or whatever you phone says.  On a computer,  click on "choose files" and follow the above directions. (You will either double-click on your picture, or click "open.") 

Edit: remember to place your camera on something to steady it, then crop your picture to expand/enlarge it and remove any distracting background.

On 8/16/2022 at 4:47 AM, J P Mashoke said:

Maybe it is from New Orleans, The French Quarter

That was funny, even though "cappe" is Italian, and "diem" is Latin. 

On 8/16/2022 at 5:49 AM, Fenntucky Mike said:

 

I like that one. Now I am going to have to try to put together a complete set.

On 8/11/2022 at 8:55 AM, Nysmith9 said:

Should I delete this or leave it up?

Leave it up. It may help a future collector.

And, if I haven't already told you, "Welcome to the forum."

On 8/8/2022 at 9:16 AM, CoinJockey73 said:

As everyone knows, my finds happen at two speeds, and two speeds only, feast, or famine. All or nothing. Go big, or go home. That's it, just two speeds. Although sometimes, you get lighter days. So maybe feast, famine, and well fed. Those three. And actually, sometimes you get really light days, too. So feast, famine, well fed, and lightly fed. To be honest, some days can be moderately heavy, as well. So, feast, famine, well fed, lightly fed, moderately fed, but that's it. I think. Sometimes things can be lightly heavy, as well....

Been watching Monty Python re-runs?