Just Bob

Actually, it has a very legitimate connection to reality. It is the way ANACS graded before NGC and PCGS came along, and it (in a slightly modified version) is the way NGC currently grades Ancients. I agree that it is not the way that the US coin market currently operates, and it definitely is not an idea that seems to be popular with many collectors or especially dealers, but to say that it has no connection to reality implies, at least in my mind, that it is something Roger invented. Here is a question for you, Kurt, to which I would love to get a non-judgemental, non-sarcastic, honest answer - either here on the forum, or elsewhere (like maybe over a plate of ribs at Dreamland barbeque in Tuscaloosa): what is it about a grading scale based on empirical standards that does not appeal to you? It seems to me that a set of standards that remain constant over time, consistently applied, could be nothing but beneficial to the hobby.

Fake

It is not a doubled die. Worth a few cents only. Keep looking

My mistake. I apologize for putting you on the spot.

If we are talking about glass, I use Cerium Oxide. Here is a link to just one source. There is a " how to mix & how to use" tutorial at the bottom of the page. Link here

And, I am not sure that Liam has been made aware of this fact yet. It is generally agreed that the coins in older NGC holders (without the indention below the label) are more conservatively graded than coins graded more recently. This is not a hard and fast rule, of course - there naturally are exceptions, but coins in the "old fatty" holder are likely to be solid for the grade at least, and under graded (by current standards) at best.

Yarm was online as recently as Sept 23 of this year.

According to my copy of Dalton & Hamer, 1b appears correct. On 4a, the bottom of the quatrefoil on the reverse extends below the tops of the "7" and "9" of the date, and the two acorns to the right of the bust on the obverse are above the sprig, rather than below it, as in your picture. On DH2, the vertical stroke of the "R" extends below the "7" in the date, and DH3 has the same acorn placement as DH4. I believe your attribution is dead on. There are two or three collectors on this forum who are much more knowledgeable than I about these tokens. @Conder101 is the preeminent expert in this series on this forum, @Yarm is another. Neither posts very often, but maybe one will see this tag and confirm your diagnosis.

Welcome to the forum, 909. I can tell you from experience that your coin was subjected to high heat. It is not a mint error.

Glad to hear that you and yours are safe, and that your house did not sustain any damage.

Did Shandy get a laugh out of this? Anytime I can cause my wife to laugh, even if it's at my expense, I feel like it's a win.

That one deserves a star, for sure.

Nice pictures. Not a doubled die, though, as far as I can tell.

Just beat up badly. Not an error coin.

The rules did not specifically state that I had to post a coin, so, if no one objects:

I have posted this set before, but it fits here.

At one time, I was assembling a set of mint state and proof Roosevelt's. I also picked up some varieties and errors along the way.

The most common tells are a granular, sometimes pitted, surface, and evidence of a casting sprue around the rim. Beyond that, I recommend you look at pictures on this site and others to get a feel for how a genuine example should look. Many of us on here shy away from giving too much detail on how to determine if a coin is a counterfeit. We believe that counterfeiters frequent chat boards to get clues about how to be improve their craft.

Thank you for coming back and posting that. It's very helpful to newcomers, and it's nice to see that you were able to realize exactly what you had.

Thanks. I'm glad to know that it wasn't something that I was doing wrong. Copying the post before I submit makes sense, though. I will try to remember to do that. Thanks for the idea.

I had a three paragraph reply typed out, but when I hit "submit" it disappeared. So, rather than go to all the trouble of retyping it, I will just say "welcome to the forum" and "I think you have a great username."

Judging by your username I assume you were in Vietnam in '68 and '69. Please allow me to take this opportunity to say, "Welcome home," just in case no one told you that when you got off the ship or plane that brought you back to the States.