FrankIII Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 Hi all, I am trying to figure out how to have a mint error added to an NGC graded coin. Specifically, I'd like to have rotated dies (hopefully medallic alignment) added to an MS63 2 cent piece. I know it's sort of an obvious error to spot, but I'd rather have NGC attribute the MA and not have to argue with people about whether or not it is. How do I go about requesting this service? I cannot choose the Mint Error service without checking a grading tier on the online form. If I select the grading tier, will NGC only charge for the Mint Error, or should I expect to pay for a grading tier and the Mint Error Attribution. I figure its worth it for $18, but likely not if the grading tier fee also applies. Thanks in advance! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tj96 Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 Can we see a picture of the coin you are talking about? Obv & Rev. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankIII Posted May 8, 2022 Author Share Posted May 8, 2022 Of course! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tj96 Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 Well, it's an obvious error. I would think the$18 error fee plus maybe a re-holder fee, not sure. Someone from NGC will chime in here I'm sure to help you. @LISA B Or post your question here:  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J P M Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 (edited) That is a good looking cent. I am not sure if you will get a error on that piece. I agree it is off center but not enough for a error. That is just my opinion I am not a coin grader just a collector. Edited May 8, 2022 by J P Mashoke Hoghead515 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldhoopster Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 On 5/8/2022 at 1:12 PM, J P Mashoke said: That is a good looking cent. I am not sure if you will get a error on that piece. I agree it is off center but not enough for a error. That is just my opinion I am not a coin grader just a collector. It's a 180 rotation.  Coinbuf and Woods020 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingAl Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 Definitely rotated, that's an amazing coin! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tj96 Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 Did you submit this coin or buy it slabbed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWB Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 (edited) On 5/8/2022 at 2:04 PM, Oldhoopster said: It's a 180 rotation.  This illustration should help. Notice the labels at top. The coin is "medal turn." If it were normal "coin turn" the "2 cents" would be upside down.  Edited May 9, 2022 by RWB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankIII Posted May 8, 2022 Author Share Posted May 8, 2022 Thank you, I really lucked out with this! I bought it locally on fb marketplace. I don’t think the seller knew it was an error, they had it pictured so you couldn’t see the orientation in the slab. When I saw it in person I knew I needed it! tj96 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VKurtB Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 On 5/8/2022 at 2:10 PM, FrankIII said: Thank you, I really lucked out with this! I bought it locally on fb marketplace. I don’t think the seller knew it was an error, they had it pictured so you couldn’t see the orientation in the slab. When I saw it in person I knew I needed it! Nice find, but understand this era was the zenith of frequency of rotated dies. Not terribly rare. JT2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woods020 Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 Nice find. I like the woodgrain toning. I think it’s worth noting, and I don’t usually feel many errors are worth it. 180 degree rotation is very interesting. Great two cent piece! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J P M Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 On 5/8/2022 at 2:04 PM, Oldhoopster said: It's a 180 rotation.  LoL Silly me, I needed a cup of coffee before commenting on that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankIII Posted May 8, 2022 Author Share Posted May 8, 2022 Hey JP, I appreciated the compliment all the same! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoghead515 Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 Sweet find. Very nice. Congrats!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member: Seasoned Veteran DWLange Posted May 8, 2022 Member: Seasoned Veteran Share Posted May 8, 2022 NGC will most definitely denote the rotated dies. Submit it for just Mint Error attribution at $18. You don't need to pay for a grading fee. tj96 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator LISA B Posted May 9, 2022 Administrator Share Posted May 9, 2022 Hello, Yes, send this as a mint error. It will be designated as Medallic Alignment. Thanks, Lisa  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWB Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 Maybe they'll accept my "Double 180 Degree Rotation" coin....? Checking to see if I have any documents mentioning this for 1864 2-cent pieces. JT2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conder101 Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 Don't get too excited over the 180 degree rotation. There is at least one common1864 variety where all or almost all of the coins have a 180 degree rotated reverse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VKurtB Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 On 5/13/2022 at 8:35 PM, Conder101 said: Don't get too excited over the 180 degree rotation. There is at least one common1864 variety where all or almost all of the coins have a 180 degree rotated reverse. When I look at my 2-cent and 3-cent nickel Dansco album, and flip the pages and look at the reverses, it’s amazing how few of them are the perfect alignment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankIII Posted May 14, 2022 Author Share Posted May 14, 2022 On 5/13/2022 at 9:35 PM, Conder101 said: Don't get too excited over the 180 degree rotation. There is at least one common1864 variety where all or almost all of the coins have a 180 degree rotated reverse. Excited? Of course I'm excited. I accidentally stumbled on something I wasn't expecting. Do I think it's worth $500? No, but it is exciting, and one of the best parts of the hobby - you really never truly know what you're going to get! On 5/8/2022 at 7:41 PM, DWLange said: NGC will most definitely denote the rotated dies. Submit it for just Mint Error attribution at $18. You don't need to pay for a grading fee. Thank you! I suppose I have to do a paper form? The online form does not allow selecting only Mint Error service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
