Greig Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 I noticed that some Silver Eagles have no mint mark yet the label might say, "minted at the San Francisco mint" or the West Point mint. Are these bullion coins? Thank you, Greig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coinbuf Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 All ASE's are bullion coins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greig Posted January 5, 2021 Author Share Posted January 5, 2021 Ah, thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen83333 Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 1 hour ago, Coinbuf said: All ASE's are bullion coins. Personally I don't consider Proof ASE's as bullion coins. Hard for me to think of my 2019-S Enhanced Reverse Proof 70 ASE and my many other Proof ASE's as bullion coins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bsshog40 Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 Regardless of the title, they are bullion! MAULEMALL and Hoghead515 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lem E Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 These are your average bullion coins but they came from a monster box with a particular serial # saying which mint they came from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoghead515 Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 Thats the way I see them also. Collectable bullion. Got the collectors value but if times ever get bad may have to count on the silver content. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lem E Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 These days in the silver eagle game, you are buying labels. You can buy that same $25 bullion coin slabbed from $35 to $300. Just depends on what the label has on it. Like it or not, that is the reality. Hoghead515 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoghead515 Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 Just now, Lem E said: These days in the silver eagle game, you are buying labels. You can buy that same $25 bullion coin slabbed from $35 to $300. Just depends on what the label has on it. Like it or not, that is the reality. I agree. And the first release or early release. Its still the same coin as the rest of its same grade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lem E Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 Pop an FDOI and a Mercanti signature on that $25 piece and you will pay for it. Hoghead515 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen83333 Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 That's what's really insane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen83333 Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 9 minutes ago, Lem E said: Pop an FDOI and a Mercanti signature on that $25 piece and you will pay for it. Crazy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen83333 Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 Why would an ASE be bullion, but a Morgan not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lem E Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 Dont know a ton about morgans but I would assume because it was a circulated coin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bsshog40 Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 Yep, Morgans were circulated dollars that went into the public, just as were peace dollars, seated dollar, Ikes, etc..... Silver eagles were never minted for circulation, only bullion collectible's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Coinbuf Posted January 6, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 6, 2021 5 hours ago, Stephen83333 said: Personally I don't consider Proof ASE's as bullion coins. Hard for me to think of my 2019-S Enhanced Reverse Proof 70 ASE and my many other Proof ASE's as bullion coins. I understand that, it is difficult to think that you spent hundreds on $25 worth of silver, but the reality is you did just that. The good news is that as long as there are collectors willing to pay the premium for a manufactured rarity like the reverse proof it will be worth more than just the bullion value. The ASE program started out as a simple bullion program, the mint through a series of limited productions and gimmicks has turned it into something else. Lancek, Hoghead515 and Alex in PA. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigGoron1981 Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 I have a 2001 ASE proof that appears to be unique. The coin has a counterpunch. It is punched by the Western Numismatic Reserve Cleavland Has anyone ever come accross one of these? Anyone know about it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lem E Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 2 hours ago, BigGoron1981 said: I have a 2001 ASE proof that appears to be unique. The coin has a counterpunch. It is punched by the Western Numismatic Reserve Cleavland Has anyone ever come accross one of these? Anyone know about it? I have seen a few other coins with this stamp. This was a club founded in 1921 by 6 members. I would say by the date, it is an anniversary commemorative for the club. I have seen some decent prices on those stamped coins.There is definitely some numismatic history there. I suggest you google it. Can we see a pic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morpheus1967 Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 6 hours ago, Coinbuf said: The ASE program started out as a simple bullion program, the mint through a series of limited productions and gimmicks has turned it into something else. I would say the TPGs are more guilty of the gimmicks than the mint is. Hoghead515 and Coinbuf 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JT2 Posted January 6, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 6, 2021 Oh boy!!! don't get me started on this!!! ALL of these FDOI, Early Release, First Strikes, Centennial set, anniversary set..etc.. Is a bunch of ! . These have been invented by some genius salesperson created by television hucksters and the TPGs went along with it. It is just a bunch of garbage and ruining the hobby for people just starting out thinking that they have something special. Moreover the TPGs are giving them a separate category in their price guides. WHY!!! they aren't special they are the same as the regular issue. Also just because you have s special label that you paid extra for DOES NOT MEAN that that coin is any more valuable....LABELS do not make the price of a coin. This garbage has gone far enough. STOP THE INSANITY!! with these labels Coinbuf, Fenntucky Mike, RonnieR131 and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigGoron1981 Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 10 hours ago, Lem E said: I have seen a few other coins with this stamp. This was a club founded in 1921 by 6 members. I would say by the date, it is an anniversary commemorative for the club. I have seen some decent prices on those stamped coins.There is definitely some numismatic history there. I suggest you google it. Can we see a pic? REPLY: I uploaded a couple of screenshots i have. Im not home to take a fresh pic. Anyway its a nice sharp stamp. I just wonder why a counterstamp from a club that existed in 1921 would end up on a 2001 silver eagle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bsshog40 Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 That's cool! Looks like they stamped a 2001 for their 80th anniversary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lem E Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 Thats a nice piece! I would hang on to that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoghead515 Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 9 hours ago, JT2 said: Oh boy!!! don't get me started on this!!! ALL of these FDOI, Early Release, First Strikes, Centennial set, anniversary set..etc.. Is a bunch of ! . These have been invented by some genius salesperson created by television hucksters and the TPGs went along with it. It is just a bunch of garbage and ruining the hobby for people just starting out thinking that they have something special. Moreover the TPGs are giving them a separate category in their price guides. WHY!!! they aren't special they are the same as the regular issue. Also just because you have s special label that you paid extra for DOES NOT MEAN that that coin is any more valuable....LABELS do not make the price of a coin. This garbage has gone far enough. STOP THE INSANITY!! with these labels Birthday set. Happy birthday set. Congratulations sets. Lol. The list goes on dont it. My goodness. Then look on Ebay trying to find a certain coin and the only one you can find of it says happy birthday set or whatever on it. Lol. Drives me crazy. I think your right. A used car salesman got a job at the mint or something JT2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenntucky Mike Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 3 hours ago, BigGoron1981 said: I like it, very nice! Dang it! I told myself I was done with ASE's but now. Hoghead515 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoghead515 Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 24 minutes ago, Fenntucky Mike said: I like it, very nice! Dang it! I told myself I was done with ASE's but now. Be great to find something like that to put in the collection wouldn't it. Im wanting one also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lem E Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 3 hours ago, BigGoron1981 said: I did a little more digging on this club and it has some pretty prominent names in the coin community attached to it. I would definitely do some research on it. There are other denominations that are stamped and from what I see, they aren’t the cheapest things around. Good luck Mike and Hoghead finding some. Does it have a grade? Hoghead515 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenntucky Mike Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 10 minutes ago, Hoghead515 said: Be great to find something like that to put in the collection wouldn't it. Im wanting one also. I went straight to searching for one, struck out. I have a feeling I wouldn't be willing to pony up for it though. @BigGoron1981 is the reverse counterstamped? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenntucky Mike Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 7 minutes ago, Lem E said: I did a little more digging on this club and it has some pretty prominent names in the coin community attached to it. I would definitely do some research on it. There are other denominations that are stamped and from what I see, they aren’t the cheapest things around. Good luck Mike and Hoghead finding some. Does it have a grade? Been looking. The WRNC also commissioned at least one medal probably more. In my searching I've seen a few other counterstamped pieces from the WRNC, sometimes both sides of the piece are counterstamped, sometimes not. I was wondering if it straight graded or not as well, my guess is yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigGoron1981 Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 3 hours ago, Lem E said: Thats a nice piece! I would hang on to that one. I'm thinking I should send it in for grading but I'm not sure what tier i would use Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
