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On 12/21/2022 at 5:59 PM, Coinbuf said:
The print is 19 X 13 suitable for framing, I'll be hanging mine on my office wall. No double eagles for this limited special, but I'm sure that if you contact Robert he would be able to do one for you. If I recall correctly his normal price is $95, and he has done many different coins for other collectors in the past.
Thanks for posting this. A couple of months ago I saw some of his posts on Instagram and a few weeks ago on the PCGS forums. When I went to look him up last week I couldn’t remember his name and couldn’t find any of his postings. I knew it would only be a matter of time before something from or about him would surface.
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On 12/17/2022 at 1:18 PM, GoldFinger1969 said:
So clearly....it's the FBL that will determine if you get the Big Buck$$$.
I guess you can have an MS-66 or even MS-67 coin and yet NOT have FBL....you would think that not having FBL would limit you and if you only have 1 or 2 lines of the FBL that maybe you can't get over a 64 or whatever.
It's almost like the FBL is an additional grade being reflected in the $$$ price.
ROBEC: "One oddity concerns the price difference between the MS66 and MS66+ non FBL. There are 6 of each listed in the GC archive. With the exception of one 66+, which sold for $853, all six 66’s sold for more than every other 66+. Even the lowest priced 66 sold for more than the 2nd highest 66+."
That's beyond weird ....unless all the 66's have more lines of the Liberty Bell than the 66+ coins. I've never heard of 66+ costing LESS than 66's from the same TPG unless a coin or two was grossly misgraded or someone bid stupidly.
But you said ALL 6 coins.
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On 12/17/2022 at 9:22 AM, Hoghead515 said:Exactly. Thats what caught my eye in that listing. Thats why I posted it to have a little fun with it. I got a good little laugh out of it when I came across it last night. Just wanted to share it with people who were interested in it last night. Maybe a new collector will see this post and see what kind of sellers are out there.
He seems to think his MAC 90% FBL designation is a thing.
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On 12/17/2022 at 9:00 AM, Hoghead515 said:The main point I was trying to make when I first started this thread in my OP was the seller is trying to sell a coin for FBL money with a 90% FBL MAC sticker that dosent have full bell lines. And they are using full step designation. They said the coin had 4 full steps and is worth $60k in 5 full steps. Thats a new one on me. Ive been doing alot of researching on these and Ive never heard of fulll steps. Ive heard of it on nickels but not halves. Everything Ive seen says they are either FBL or they are not. I may have missed something myself and was quick to post on it last night. If I did I apoligize and would like to learn the truth.
Anyone who collects or has collected Franklins know steps are not a thing. Hopefully anyone who clunks down $50,000 on a coin will do some sort of investigation. With instant knowledge only a fingertip away in the computer age there is little reason for someone to get taken by something as well known and well documented as the Franklin series, especially full bell lines and no such thing as steps. Even if there is a percentage of bell lines present, if that number isn’t 100, it isn’t full and never will be.
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On 12/17/2022 at 7:42 AM, Simple Collector said:
A 1953-s ms65+ fbl in NGC holder sold for $42,750. With fees in March 2019. A 1953-s in ms66 PCGS just brought $1,359. This month. Both auctioned on GC.
I must be missing something.
There was also an NGC 66+FBL that sold in May 2020 for $52,800 with the fees. Even in MS63 a 1953-S with FBL sells for over $17,000.
The PCGS MS66 53-S sold this month for $1359 wasn’t FBL.
One oddity concerns the price difference between the MS66 and MS66+ non FBL. There are 6 of each listed in the GC archive. With the exception of one 66+, which sold for $853, all six 66’s sold for more than every other 66+. Even the lowest priced 66 sold for more than the 2nd highest 66+.
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The auction prices for a 1953-S MS66 Franklin on eBay sold from November and December of 2022 goes from a low of $145 to a high of $310. There was a $376 Franklin sold from a David Lawrence October auction.
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On 12/10/2022 at 10:05 PM, VKurtB said:I have both the box version AND the flat pack version of the 1955 proof sets. The real scam is people offering “still sealed” brown envelope proof sets from 1955-1964. Yes, the BOX might be still sealed, but the brown envelopes NEVER WERE SEALED. They were just unsealed as shipped. NEVER pay a premium for a sealed set. It will never contain special coins such as cameos. It’s a nasty scam, and eBay sellers are infamous for it.
The only way those original envelopes were sealed is if they were stored in a humid environment. All the proofs I received from the mint in the 1960’s on were never sealed.
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On 12/7/2022 at 11:17 AM, VKurtB said:
Yup, unless it’s not there at all, as on the bullion versions.
That is true. I was assuming he was referring to the collector version since he mentioned West Point.
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On the ASE the mint mark is on the reverse.
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