Hoghead515

Here lately I took an intrest in collecting mine scrip tokens. I will collect from any state but Im mostly interested in Kentucky. Ive found out there are some from my hometown I was raised in, Olive Hill Ky. I started this post because I know there are many token collectors on here and figured it wouldnt hurt to ask. There are 3 little towns Im very interested in any type of token wether its mine scrip, store tokens, wooden nickels, etc. If anyone has any tokens from Grahn, Olive Hill, or Morehead Ky, and you are interested in selling or trading please give me a message. Espically Grahn or Olive Hill. I found one in an Ebay auction from a company my pawpaw worked for in Olive Hill. Im gonna try my best to get the winning bid. Its very cool to see it on there. General Refractories Co of Olive Hill Ky. If anyone ever comes accross any of those give me a message. Im still planning on collecting other mine scrip tokens from Ky. Its very cool where I get to work all over Ky and see the little towns those tokens come from. Thank you everyone.

Same here. I use paper also. Im still yet to buy my first computer. Never owned one. My son has a lap top I use sometimes. Not very good with it though. I use my phone to get on this website. I also put a few coins on NGC registry. It helps to keep track of several of my certified coins. I keep all my coins recorded on paper in a zip up 5 star note book. I keep it in a fire proof safe. I also keep all the reciepts of coins I purchased in the safe. I keep a mean wife watching over the safe. Im learning a little more each day about websites and technology. Im light years behind most people my age with computers. One question I have @RaritiesValue.com. Can you access your website by phone or do you have to use a computer?

I thought earlier you didnt want to sell it. Now no one will believe you after that trick. Even if you were going to sell it on here no one will buy it now. No one will trust you. I was actually hoping you really had one and was very happy for you.

Very well said.

Most of the things you think are errors will turn out to be damage and anomalies from worn dies. Its very rare to find true mint errors. If I were you I would study up on the minting process and how true errors are made. Theres many good books and information on the topic. And if you think you found a true dd then go to NGC variety plus or variety vista and compare yours to the known double dies they have listed. If you find one thst matches yours then you may have one. If it dosent match any of the known ones then more than likely its machine doubling.

Most of the DD coins you find in circulation is machine doubling. Its a worthless type of doubling. True DDs are very rare to find in circulation and most of them are only worth a few bucks depending on which ones and the condition of the coin. Machine doubling is very common. If you roll hunt you will find it on several coins. Ive looked through hundreds and hundreds of coins the past few years and only found 2 true DD coins. And they are not worth much but still fun for me to collect.

I assume your comment is in response to what @Conder101 said. He is saying the coin values in the letter you shared were a completely different type of coin than what you have and they were more valuable. Same type error though. Like I was saying in one of my earlier post, a special series of a coin thats uncirculated with an error is much more valuable than a very common coin thats heavily circulated with the same type of error. Its like trying to compare steak to lettuce. Lettuce is still good but a little less valuable than steak.

Just because you didnt make it dosent mean someone before you didnt make it and put it back into circulation. People do all sorts of crazy things to coins. No one is accusing you of making fake coins. You asked for help and they are trying to help you. And its very critical they see the edge of the coin to help. I believe you its legit and you took and had it checked but the people on here are just simply asking for a picture so they can verify it as well. If you go to a doctor and then go get a second opinion from another doctor in another state, the doctor who knows nothing about the first doctor is going to take their word for what they said was wrong with you. They will want to check you out for themselves. Thats why you were asked for an edge picture of the coin. You came on here asking for help. In coins those pictures are crucial pieces of evidence needed to help check your coin. If those coin shops were that credible then they would have been able to tell you how it was made during the minting process and its value. If they dont know that then they dont need to be selling people coins. If you were just wanting a second opinion from people on here then dont get upset when questions are asked and listen to their advice. There are experts on here with decades of experience. They are very much into numismatics and enjoy helping people but you have to want to be helped.

Its just a regular copper cent. It just toned that color. Its not worth sending in for grading. Only worth face value or its metal content worth of copper. NGC is based in Florida. Thats where they do all their grading in the US other than at coin shows. They do have a dealers list that shows local dealers who you can get to submit coins for you. Its located on their site somewhere. Just have to navigate it and find it. If your new it would be best to submit through a dealer. They can help you weed through and pick what coins are worth submitting. If they are not worth at least 3 or 4 hundred dollars they are not worth grading. Its pretty expensive after all the fees such as insurance, shipping, grading, and others. Good luck.

I believe your right. The circulated condition of the quarter had me fooled.

I sure do believe it is a trumpet S. It looks like it to me anyways. I could be wrong though. I bought one of these at GC auction a few months ago in MS and it got lost in the mail. I was heartbroken. Got a great deal on it. They refunded my money though so that was good to at least get my money back. Could have been worse.

Nice find @Mr.Bill347. Thats a sweet looking Morgan!!!

Looks like a few post disappeared.

I couldnt remember all the years he made them. Thanks for adding that. I think I remember seeing where hed been making them for a while but he got caught during the war nickel years.

From what Ive learned about them is during world war 2 time the Mint put the large mint marks on the nickels they made out of silver. Henning messed up and didnt put those large mint marks on his counterfeits and thats what got him caught. If you find a nickel from that era thats supposed to have a large mint mark on it and it dosent then more than likely its a Hennings nickel.

That was quite a bit of money in some places back in the 50s and 60s. Here where we live ive heard some of the old timers talking about working all day to make very little. Id say those were easy targets in the poverty striken areas. Some unhonest postal workers could easily get a 6 pack or two with one of those sets at the bootleggers. Dosent look like they made any effort to disquise the box in any way. Thats the first time Ive ever seen one of the original boxes. Thanks for sharing @VKurtB

I agree with LemE. Could also have been damaged by an acid of some type.

Wonder how many of those were stolen from the mail back in the day. It has STEAL ME written all over it. Seems people were a little more honest in those days but Im sure there were still plenty of crooks. That was quite a bit of money in that box for most in 1951.

Ive been looking on Ebay just at the local coal company tokens. There is plenty of them. Ive noticed a few in flips with R5 on them. Does anyone know what that means? Is that a rarity number. Theres much I need to learn about these. I found one token from the county Im originally from. Carter County. Im gonna try and bid on it. There were several old clay mines around carter county. It sounds like a fun project to collect them and share the fun with my sons. Maybe help us learn more of the history and locations from our home state together.

Thank you for the information. Its always great to hear your advice and information you share. Thats a very impressive collection you have going on. Im thinking about buying a couple I really like just to have a couple in my collection. Ive always had an interest in them since I first discovered them for myself. I actually first discovered them on Ebay and then wanted to know more about them. I really think Im gonna take @zadok advice and collect mine -script tokens. Ive thought about it for quite a while now. I didnt know they were all catologued where a person can use it as a guide and look for them until he shared the post above. Espically since several of them are from right around my area. I could probably do some digging in some of the towns Im in working all the time and maybe find local dealers who have them. There are numerous amounts on Ebay also. Im still gonna collect a few of the Conders as I get the chance. Ill probably have to get them in circulated condition. Im really wanting to find that one with the stork on it that I missed out on in that auction. I found the same one with a $65 price tag but Im gonna try hold off and find it cheaper later on. There are a few of the Conders I really like. Im glad I started this thread because I learned a whole lot from it that I didnt know. I never knew there were so many varieties.

I remember you sure put some work into it. Finding the coins, getting pics done, and the descriptions. It is a well deserving set.

You can still put a set together on the registry. If your budget is anything like mine it will be hard to take some those top spots but its still fun to take part in. Im ranked way up well over 100 in my Washington quarter set and I know ill probably never make it into the top 50 but its still fun to display my coins in the registry.

Yep those artifical toners get a details grade just as a damaged coin does. Like @Lem E said those nickels do tone some amazing colors. Hes got some beauties in his set. If u get the chance you outta check out his registry set. @EagleRJO beat me to it. I was literally typing that out when his message went through. Lem's collection is some of the finest nickels you will lay eyes on. He was ranked #1 there for a while.

Just be careful if you buy any rainbow toners raw. Several people are out there artificially toning them so they bring big bucks and they wont straight grade. Its hard to tell the difference unless you are very experienced on it. If I were gonna buy any rainbow toners id go for already graded coins. People will scam anyone they can for a dollar these days.

Ive look at several of those and Ive thought about it for a long time. I enjoy collecting local tokens of any type. I just may consider doing that. I think its neat where we work all over Ky getting to see some of the little towns Ive got tokens that was from there. We see old shut down coal mines everywhere. See several reclaimed strip jobs also. Thats interesting how the miners used those tokens to get food and supplies.