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That is too bad to hear. I had a similar experience with one local where I am at and very different experience with 2 others. Basically one treated me as if I had the plague and the other 2 treated me like family. A good brick and mortar is always a joy to go into and see and hold what I may be interested in purchasing. I do shop online as well.

Interesting way to start your quest for info by making an accusation that you can not substantiate. I would say it is most likely the coin had issues prior to submission that were unseen at the time by you or whomever submitted the coin. Too bad for the coin. Deterioration aside it is a nice looking pattern.

Well that came out much better than I would have thought. So as Moxie asked "what did you use?"

Agree.

Very nice addition to the thread Woods

Truer words never spoken

The Vatican has some very beautiful coins to me eyes. My kids thus far have a limited interest my collection.

I am sure you have other reasons higher on the list of "why I collect" than this.

Excellent example brg.

I am bumping simply because I am so happy to finally see someone selling in the thread vs linking to an online site. Kudos to you

An increase in wear and tear due to increased production in other denoms equipment would increase as well. I do not argue that removing the cent would reduce the expense in a perfect world. We do not live in that world from what I see in gov't or business. I am of the opinion that any expense savings for cent production would simply be shifted elsewhere for a net net gain of zero. Could I be wrong? Certainly and time will indeed tell at some point. But as I said above it takes strong leadership to manage a budget and make meaningful and significant cuts to the actuals. This is not just a cut in a product line, but a fundamental change (see what I did there haha) for the entire country. Take revenue and expense out of the conversation and I think this is an still a steep uphill battle to remove the cent. Not as steep as it once was, but still a significant hurdle. Agreed. Competition and free markets tend to keep things generally level. However, I do think a removal of cash or certain denoms would have rounding addressed vs left to the individual business to decide. But in a 100% cashless society I do not see rounding as an issue since it is all digital vs hard currency. Change is a coming! (pun intended again and I am not sure why I am finding that more humorous than it is )

Wow I am seeing some fantastic looking two cent pieces. Great looking coins folks.

Very nice looking coin and addition to your collection. The concise writeup you add is appreciated as well.

Always enjoy seeing seated liberties. Almost as much as Buff nics. Nice coin

Either end of the range is a high volume per day. Thanks for the reply.

Out of curiosity - what kind of volume per day is the expectation?

Great read. Thanks for posting the link.

It leads me to question would those costs be shifted to more equipment, hubs, and dies need to increase production on the coins that remain? It wouldn't be just the cost of stopping production of cents. It would be pulling a large amount of funds from the circulating economy. They would need to be replaced with a like amount of funds to some degree. Which would mean the equipment is still needed and more hubs and dies would be needed for the remaining denominations I would think. My other question would be, when does cost reduction of overhead really occur in business or in particular government? Overhead from my experience in the industries I have worked in typically just shifts from here to there and is a pretty steady growth in admin & equipment cost. No argument that it can be reduced, but I think that takes strong leadership to really manage a budget and cut it. I will do some research though as your reply Conder has me thinking of a few other items I want to look at.

I would say no reason to leave. You posted some coins you had questions about. Some folks answered as well as a few giving you some ribbing and a little grief. You will encounter this everywhere. However, that is not a reason to quit the site. There a plenty here that will answer. Those you do not appreciate simply ignore.

Nothing to submit in that batch of coins.

Interesting discussion topic. I agree things will at some distant time in the future end up totally "cashless". Now the difference of when that time is will vary greatly among people own opinion. I can see the cent at some point in the not so far future either being completely eliminated from production, or put a hiatus on production for a period of years to study the impact of not producing the cent. In the US we have already had numerous pieces of legislation put forth to eliminate the cent since 1990. Rep Jim Kolbe tried and tried but without success. Sen McCain and Enzi put forth legislation to stop production of the cent for a 10 year period. No success there either. I do not know the government making profit is the main driver to continue production. It seems to me the cent as well as the nickel are upside down in the regard. So there are other factors that come into play. Strong lobbyists for the supplier to the Mint. Potential increased cost if we cease production of the cent (and nickel) to the other coins due to shifting of burden of fixed costs. Something has to cover fixed costs. And then there is the general "nostalgia" people have towards touching hard currency. That being said my last point becomes less valid with successive generations who grow up mainly using apps or credit cards to make purchases. I am certainly minimizing the reasons down to a few vs the many. However, at some point as I said I agree we will be cashless.

Interesting question about conservative vs liberal graders. I am not sure any one answer will suffice. To me a conservative grader would know the guidelines for a given grade and grade based on them without concern for a coin being close to a grade above or below. So more strict if you will. A liberal grader would user the same guidelines but possibly upgrade or downgrade if close to meeting criteria for the grade above or below. So a little more flexible with the top or lower end of a grade. Now I also believe the guidelines for a grade are highly subjective and quite often will be at slightly different with another's vision of the same guidelines. So instead of a fixed set of guidelines, we have a somewhat dynamic set that can vary between graders. Therefore, we get submitters thinking one thing based on their own vision of the grade and are often surprised with higher or lower grades they receive in return from a TPG. And then those cracking out a coin they disagreed with the grade and resubmitting it only for it to come back with a different grade again. So on and so forth.

Love those Indian Head nics fullhorn

I am in. Nice little give away.

Some beautiful coins listed here. very nice pickups folks.