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Sandon

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  1. Some of those who post photos of damaged coins or those with minor anomalies that they think are mint errors are members of the general public or very new or casual collectors who know little or nothing about coins. You can't expect them to understand how coins are made and what errors are possible. I try to humor them and explain why their coins are not mint errors. Some are appreciative, and a few may ultimately become knowledgeable collectors. Those who insist that they are right and we are wrong I ultimately ignore and leave to bask in their invincible ignorance.
  2. 1912 Barber quarter, PCGS graded MS 63: Photos courtesy of Stacks Bowers Galleries.
  3. Welcome to the NGC chat board. Please post photos that are right side up and better cropped to show only the coin and not the surrounding surface. Based on what I can see, the missing "K" in Kansas and weak "I" in "LIBERTY" on your 2005-P Kansas quarter could have resulted from foreign matter (generically referred to as "grease") filling these portions of the dies. See https://www.error-ref.com/?s=struck+through+"grease". However, this coin has had a fair amount of wear and tear, and the weakness may also have been accentuated by wear and scrapes. Coins struck from filled dies are generally classified as minor mint errors and usually have little or no collector value. Contrary to claims you may have seen on some websites, it is extremely unusual to find rare and valuable mint errors or die varieties in your pocket change. EDIT: Your topic would receive better attention if posted in the "Newbie Coin Collecting Questions" forum. The "NGC Registry" forum is for topics relating to the NGC registry for certified coins.
  4. @leeg--Regarding your inquiry about having your 1901 Proof Indian cent reholdered, NGC's policy for copper coins is that if the coin has been in the holder for over ten years, as this one has, the coin will be treated as a raw submission and possibly receive a different grade. See Verify NGC Certification | NGC (ngccoin.com). Here's an 1854 half cent that I purchased uncertified as an AU in 1992 and that NGC graded MS 62 BN in 2022:
  5. 1896-S Barber Quarter (key issue), NGC graded VG details, obverse scratched. (Most grade no better than Good.) Photos courtesy of Stacks Bowers Galleries.
  6. The certification number you provided and the holder and label styles shown in the photos posted by @Simple Collector indicate that the coin would have been submitted to NGC within approximately the last two years. It is highly unlikely that the coin's appearance has changed since NGC graded it. NGC certification verification correctly identifies the coin as a 1949-S Franklin half dollar graded MS 67+, which is the highest grade that NGC has awarded that issue. NGC mistakenly failed to include images of the coin, which happens from time to time. The yellowish-brown toning on the coin suggests that it was stored in the cardboard packaging of a 1949 mint set or a similar chemically reactive holder. Some collectors seek out coins from the 1947-58 era with such "mint set toning", and grading services may award them higher grades than fully brilliant pieces with equivalent qualities of surface preservation, luster and strike. Others, like me, find this "tarnish-type" toning unattractive and do not buy such pieces. The removal of the toning by "dipping", even by a professional, would likely lower the grade of the coin. You stated that you had bought the coin sight unseen. In my opinion, this is a bad idea even if you only buy coins certified by top-tier grading services. Such coins may vary widely in appearance within the same grade, and some may not be to your taste. If all you were interested in was getting the maximum number of registry set points for this issue, you succeeded. However, if you are trying to acquire coins that you find pleasing, you should reconsider your approach.
  7. Welcome to the NGC chat board. Your quarter dollar was struck as a proof, which is a coin specially made for collectors and issued in a sealed proof set with proof examples of other coins struck that year. These coins are made with mirror fields that contrast with frosted devices and lettering. Unfortunately, someone removed your coin from a proof set and spent it, resulting in the coin's surfaces becoming nicked and scratched. We can't tell what date or issue it is without seeing the reverse of the coin. Based on the obverse design, it was struck between 1999 and 2021. As proof quarters were made in both copper nickel clad and silver versions in each of these years, we would need to see the edge to tell whether it is clad or silver. If the edge is mostly red or brown, it is clad and of little or no value beyond face value. If it is white throughout, it is silver and currently worth about $4 for its silver content.
  8. As the coin was presumably already graded MS 67+ by a reputable grading service, why do you believe that it would benefit from conservation? Unless the coin has markedly deteriorated since it was encapsulated, it should not require conservation. Photos would be helpful. If you submit a coin to NGC and request NCS conservation, NCS will determine whether the coin might benefit from it and proceed only upon determining that conservation would be beneficial. If they don't, there will be a $5 fee, and the coin will be transferred to NGC for grading. The full NCS fee applies only it NCS determines that the coin might benefit. See Coin Conservation | NCS | Numismatic Conservation Services | NGC (ngccoin.com) (FAQs).
  9. 1902 Liberty quarter eagle, PCGS graded MS 64: Photos courtesy of Stacks Bowers Galleries.
  10. Nothing about the date looks unusual to me. Do you have a 1990-dated dime with what you consider a "normal" date to post for comparison?
  11. A mylar or other non-PVC flip is generally satisfactory, but you should be careful that the coin doesn't fall out or move around too much in the flip. There are holders specifically made for individual quarter eagles, including the lucite sandwich holders with screws, and those that resemble grading service holders. Try local coin dealers, or look on coin supply sites such as amosadvantage.com, whitman.com, or wizardcoinsupply.com.
  12. @Glynn K.--The "BIE" or "LIBIERTY" cents and those with clogged letters or numerals were caused by die chips. Notwithstanding the fad of collecting them in the 1960s and '70s, they are regarded today as the result of quality control issues rather than as mint errors and will not be attributed as errors by grading services. I agree that collecting these sorts of aberrations can still be fun and wrote a forum topic about them about a year and a half ago.
  13. Based on the photos, I would grade the 1960-D nickel in the AU 50-55 range. It has no real collector value in that grade range. (The NGC Price Guide says ten cents.) I assume that you had no questions about the other coins whose photos you posted.
  14. It would be entirely speculative to render an opinion as to how coins may be collected and sold 200 years from now! A collector from 1824 might have similarly asked which type of wooden coin cabinet collectors would be using to store their coins in 2024. When I began collecting in the early 1970s, no one foresaw the existence of third- party grading services that encapsulate small coins in large, bulky holders or that "grading" a coin would refer to submitting the coin to one of these services instead of consulting a grading guide or using one's own knowledge and experience to grade the coin oneself. If you're referring to current practices, if you wanted only the one coin in a set third-party graded, you would only submit that one coin. NGC offers "multi-coin" holders that house an entire proof or similar set, but these are only available for pre-approved "bulk submissions" of numerous such sets. See NGC Coin Holders | Holders for Coin Protection | NGC. For instructions on submitting coins to NGC, which I don't recommend unless you have sufficient grading and related skills to determine that the individual coins in your submission are worth at least several hundred dollars each, see the various topics under the "Submit" tab on the NGC home page.
  15. No. It appears to be what PCGS refers to as a "Generation 2.2" holder from 1989 or possibly a "Generation 3.0" holder from 1990-93. The "rattler", designated Generations 1.0-1.2 (mostly 1.2) and used from 1986-89 is a different size from later PCGS holders. See https://www.pcgs.com/holdermuseum for photos and descriptions of the various PCGS holders. The "rattlers" are so called because the coins were sometimes slightly loose and would turn and "rattle" when the holder was shaken. It's possible that the OP's coin was inserted in the wrong position to begin with, and it may not be possible to reorient it while keeping the holder intact.
  16. 1864 "L on ribbon" Indian cent, FS 2301 recut date variety, NGC graded AU 58 BN: Photos courtesy of Stacks Bowers Galleries.
  17. I agree that government issued sets should be kept in their original packaging, which protects the coins they contain, provides evidence of their authenticity, and is part of their historical context. If you want to store the coins in a safe deposit box or home safe, the pieces issued in capsules can be stored in their capsules separately from the rest of the packaging to save space and the rest of the packaging stored elsewhere. If you store any coins in albums, be very careful to insert them deeply enough that the top slide does not rub against the coin. This can result in patches of minute scratches on the coins known as "slide marks" that are unsightly and devaluing.
  18. I assume that by "gotten a coin graded" you mean submitted a coin to a third-party grading service. My usual advice is that unless you have developed sufficient grading skills to determine a reasonable approximate grade for the coin yourself and the coin is worth at least several hundred dollars in that approximate grade, you should not be considering such submissions. However, in the case of an Indian quarter eagle, which is probably the most counterfeited series of all U.S. coins, it may be worthwhile to submit it mainly for purposes of authentication. Based on your photos, your coin appears likely to be genuine and to have uncirculated details or nearly so but has an unnatural shine that suggests that it has been "cleaned" or polished. If so, the coin would likely still be worth over $400. If you want to submit it to NGC and do not have other coins worthy of submission, it might be more economical to submit it through an NGC member dealer to avoid having to pay the $10 per order processing fee and $28 return shipping fee on this one coin.
  19. 1893-O Morgan dollar, PCGS graded VF 35: Photos courtesy of Stacks Bowers Galleries.
  20. I think that in all likelihood the coin has been altered or damaged and is not a mint error, but the topic author indicated that he intends to send the coin to an "expert" for an opinion, so I gave him some lower cost options to obtain such as opinion. The only possible error I think this coin could be is a partially missing clad layer on both sides of the coin, which I've never heard of, and I think would be highly unlikely to exist. However, if it were one, I assume that it would have significant market value.
  21. Large numbers of mint bags and rolls of cents were saved by collectors, dealers, and speculators during the "BU roll craze" of the early to mid 1960s, so dates like the 1962-D remain extremely common today in Brilliant Uncirculated condition. A fifty-coin BU roll can still be purchased for a few dollars. This coin has light friction or "rub" on the high points as noted and has nominal collector value but is suitable for an album collection of cents taken from circulation.
  22. 1879-S Morgan dollar, reverse of 1878, now NGC graded MS 62:
  23. For an expert opinion without cost, you could show photos of the coin (preferably right side up and cropped) to Jon Sullivan, the respected errors dealer who wrote the article on the PCGS website linked by @Rob’s Coins. Go to https://sullivannumismatics.com/ and click "Contact Us" under the "Customer Service tab. If there are coin shows in this area, you could also show the coin to dealers at these shows, but many dealers are not very familiar with mint errors. You could also submit the coin to CONECA (the "Combined Organization of Numismatic Error Collectors of America") for examination for $10 plus shipping and insurance costs. Go to https://conecaonline.org/examination-services/ for instructions. Apparently, CONECA will have to examine photos of the coin through its forum before authorizing submission of the coin itself, so there may be no cost for this option either if based on the photos the coin doesn't appear to be a mint error. I do not recommend submission of this coin to a grading service, which would be quite expensive (at NGC $37 in nonrefundable grading and error attribution fees alone, plus a $10 order processing fee and $28 return shipping fee and your cost of shipping to NGC). If you do obtain another expert opinion that the coin is a mint error, such submission could be worthwhile.
  24. Welcome to the NGC chat board. Unfortunately, coins sometimes do deteriorate even in sealed government packaging and in grading service holders. This is particularly an issue with the copper plated zinc cents made since late 1982. This deterioration can't be reversed and negatively impacts the coin's value.
  25. I only wish that years ago collectors had adamantly refused to purchase certified circulated coins that were overgraded by Photograde standards but, unfortunately, that ship has sailed. One of the definitions of "comprehend" in My American Heritage Dictionary is "[t]o take in, include, or embrace; comprise". An old Webster's Dictionary includes a definition for "comprehend" as "[t]o contain, to embrace, to include". I apologize to the author of this topic for its going so far off its original subject.