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Sandon

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  1. Welcome to the NGC chat board. If your question was directed to the NGC staff, please be advised that NGC does not give free grading opinions. Insofar as I can tell from your photos, your 1903-O Barber dime has About Uncirculated or Uncirculated details but has an unnatural color and shine indicating that it has been improperly "cleaned" or polished. It also has a scrape on the reverse beneath the "DIM" of "DIME" that would also likely be considered as an impairment by a third-party grading service such as NGC. It would likely only receive a "details" adjectival grade mentioning that it has been "cleaned" or polished, has reverse damage, or both. The $25 valuation seems fair; it is perhaps worth a bit more. FYI, here are photos of a 1913 Barber dime that PCGS (another top tier grading service) graded MS 64. Note the frosty luster instead of the odd shine on your coin. Photos courtesy of Stacks Bowers.
  2. 1849 Liberty Seated half dollar, PCGS graded XF 40:
  3. Welcome to the NGC chat board. "Buffalo" nickels were minted from 1913 to 1938. The dates were placed on a high area of the design and frequently wore off. Yours does appear to be dated 1930, a common date, is worn down to About Good condition (a low grade) and is worth perhaps fifty cents retail in that condition. As the date is legible, I advise against using date restoring chemicals, which would burn the coin. FYI, here is what a Buffalo nickel looks like in uncirculated condition, this one a 1936 graded MS 65 by PCGS: Please see the following forum topics for print and online resources that will help you to learn about U.S. coins:
  4. Welcome to the NGC chat board. Before I attempt to answer your question, there are several issues that I must address. 1. The "Coin Marketplace" forum is for offers to sell or buy specific coins, not for questions about coins or how to submit them to NGC. For proper attention, such questions should be posted on the "Newbie Coin Collecting Questions" forum or in the case of questions about submissions, on the "Ask NGC/NCS" forum. (I will ask the Administrator to move this topic to the "Newbie" forum.) 2. The coins whose photos you posted are clearly not examples of the very rare and controversial 1964 "SMS" coins, which have a "smooth satin-like appearance" rather than a mirrorlike surface as on the coins shown. See photos and discussion at https://www.pcgs.com/coinfacts/coin/1964-50c-sms/6844 and Kennedy Half Dollars (1964-Date) | VarietyPlus® | NGC (ngccoin.com) (1964 50C SP). Your coins appear to be from a 1964 proof set, of which over 3.9 million were sold and are normally worth about $30 as a set. Unfortunately, someone appears to have rubbed these coins with something that left numerous hairline scratches on their surfaces. This is known as "abrasive cleaning" and has destroyed much of their collector value. 3. You claim to have a "1975 no mint mark dime" which you apparently believe to be rare. Actually, the Philadelphia mint issued over 585 million dimes dated 1975, which had no mint marks, as that mint did not place mint marks on dies for dimes or most other coins until 1980. If you found this coin in circulation, it is undoubtedly one of these common pieces, which are generally worth face value. The rare piece is a 1975 no S proof dime, which has a mirrorlike surface and was issued in proof sets sealed in hard plastic holders. Only two are known to exist. See https://www.pcgs.com/coinfacts/coin/1975-10c-no-s/5254. As you are going to the FUN show, I recommend that you show these coins to some of the better-known dealers there before attempting to submit them to NGC or any other grading service. I assume that they will confirm what I have said here. If you still want to submit them and have a paid NGC membership, NGC will be accepting regular submissions at the show and will transport them to their facility in Sarasota for authentication and grading and return them to you via Federal Express. Be sure to read the various topics under the "Submit" tab on the NGC home page. One difficulty I see is that if you want these coins insured at what genuine pieces of these extremely rare issues would be worth, you will have to submit them at a very high "tier" that would require a high grading fee. Make sure that you likely have what you think you have before you submit!
  5. Welcome to the NGC chat board. As I expect that NGC will confirm, multi-coin holders are "only available for select bulk submissions of certain coin types." See NGC Coin Holders | Holders for Coin Protection | NGC. You can't send in a single set of coins for grading and encapsulation in such a holder, assuming that they have one that would fit this particular set.
  6. Welcome to the NGC chat board. I have collected and studied U.S. coins for over fifty years. I don't know everything about coins and never will. I try to use the knowledge and experience that I do have to give my honest opinion to other collectors, novice or otherwise, on these forums. I have spent several minutes looking at your photos and am unable to recognize any "strike error" or die variety that would be of a sort that knowledgeable collectors seek and have significant market value. I don't see "a clear part of a number or letter below the mint mark". The raised areas around the mint mark and the letter "A", if present when the coin was struck, appear most likely to be die chips. It may just be that the photos are too blurry and dark for us to see what you see. If you are unable to post clearer photos, you might want to show the coin in person to knowledgeable collectors or dealers in your area. You might also want to compare the coin to the types of mint errors catalogued on error-ref.com. (I checked the Variety Vista and doubleddie.com sites, as well as NGC VarietyPlus and PCGS Coinfacts, and they do not list a die variety for the 1942-D nickel that bears any resemblance to your coin.)
  7. Die chips are extremely common, which is why coins with them are being posted here regularly. They are regarded as quality control issues rather than mint errors and are not worth a premium to knowledgeable collectors. They are not attributed by grading services. See Variety vs. Mint Error | NGC (ngccoin.com). ("NGC does not recognize as mint error coins those with minor die chips, breaks and rotations, etc., that fall within our interpretation of mint tolerance. ") There was once a fad of collecting certain Lincoln cents with die chips between the "B" and "E" of "LIBERTY" that resembled the letter "I", but they are very common and no longer considered to be of much value and are not attributed. I posted a topic about them a while ago.
  8. I respectfully disagree. I was simply trying to illustrate an uncirculated Morgan dollar with a full strike and one with a somewhat weak strike. PCGS, NGC and other reputable grading services are ostensibly all using grading standards based on those provided in the ANA grading guide. Both the 1881-S and the 1892-O are examples of the obverse master die used from 1878 to 1904 and what VAM refers to as the "C3" reverse used on all Morgan dollars dated from 1881 to 1899, as well as some 1878 (Philadelphia), all 1879 except for some 1879-S, all 1880 except for some 1880-CC and some dated 1900 and 1901 as well. Both of the coins I showed are of exactly the same design and uncirculated but of markedly different striking qualities. It would likely be very difficult to find a Morgan dollar graded MS 67 that is weakly struck. As noted by the ANA Grading Guide, 7th edition at p.22, "[a] coin which is MS-65 from a technical or numerical standpoint but which is weakly struck can be described as MS-64, MS-63, or some lower grade, without mentioning the weakness; this is the practice of most third-party grading services at present." (Compare the discussion at p. 35, which indicates that by the time of publication of that edition in 2013, grading services were sometimes giving weakly struck coins higher grades.) The 1892-O shown above, which is in an older NGC holder, isn't heavily bagmarked and has decent luster. The MS 62 grade likely resulted in part from the weakness of its strike. I avoid uncirculated and lightly circulated coins that are weakly struck and have very few in my collection. I also usually have only one coin of each issue. If you want to illustrate pieces of the same date and mint and graded by the same grading service that have different striking characteristics, I can't accommodate you. I do, however, have an 1891-O (same era and mint as the 1892-O) that is unusually well struck for that issue, which is said to be overall the worst struck in the entire Morgan dollar series. (It is not, however, a full strike like the 1881-S.) NGC recently graded it MS 61, presumably due to the heavy marks on Liberty's face. I've posted it on the forum recently, but you can use it for comparison with the 1892-O if you prefer:
  9. It has been a while since I had an opportunity to photograph more of the coins from my Whitman bookshelf album of Jefferson nickels from 1938 to 1964. The last coins I had posted were issues of 1942. I'm going to skip ahead for now to a coin of little monetary value but of some sentimental value. I received this 1957-D nickel in change from a cashier at my high school cafeteria in or about 1976. The coin is absolutely mint state despite having been issued nearly twenty years before I so received it. It was struck from worn dies, as indicated by the "orange peel" effect in some areas and the die crack at the top of Jefferson's head yet was strongly struck with most of the steps visible.
  10. So that readers can see what this topic refers to, here are photos of (1) an 1881-S Morgan dollar graded MS 67 by PCGS that is fully struck, as is typical for most early "S" mint Morgan dollars and (2) an 1892-O Morgan dollar graded MS 62 by NGC with weakness at the centers, as is frequently seen on "O" mint issues of the early to mid 1890s:
  11. 1900 Indian cent, PCGS graded MS 64 RB: Photos courtesy of Stacks Bowers Galleries.
  12. I have seen dealers use the same products that are used to make old automobile headlights less cloudy to lessen the effects of scuffs and scratches on certified holders. I have tried "Meguiar's PlastX (TM) Clear Plastic Cleaner & Polish" myself. It helps a little, but nothing will remove serious scuffs or scratches that really interfere with viewing the coin. So far as I know, using these products will not harm the coins in the holders, but I would not recommend their use on holders that are chipped to a point that the surrounding atmosphere can readily enter the holder.
  13. A third-party grading service's grade assignment is never anything more than an opinion, albeit one by people who are supposedly objective, as well as trained and experienced. That is why collectors should learn how to grade coins themselves, develop their own judgment and taste, and not rely entirely on what is printed on a grading service's little paper tag or the presence or absence of someone else's sticker. The opinion that a coin has been "cleaned" is based on it having a variety of appearances, such as significant hairlining, an unnatural color, dullness, brightness, or shine, or blotchy toning. See my custom registry set Characteristics of "Cleaned" Coins - Custom Set (collectors-society.com). It is not possible to know just what happened to the coin during the course of its existence that created one of these appearances, but if you are going to submit coins to grading services, you should be able to arrive at an approximate grade yourself and be able to recognize factors that are likely to be interpreted as impairments and result in a "details" grade. If you removed a collector's issue from its original mint packaging, which was evidence of its authenticity and originality, and the grading service returned it as having been "cleaned", that supports my position that such coins should not be submitted to grading services. The volume of coins submitted to grading services would make it impractical for the graders to render a written opinion on every coin submitted, would further delay the process, which can already take months, and would likely increase the already considerable cost. It is possible that you might be able to obtain the content of any notes the graders took about your coin on the "Ask NGC/NCS" forum or by contacting NGC customer service.
  14. Based on the photos, your 1976-D Type 2 Bicentennial Eisenhower dollar exhibits shelf-like "strike doubling", also known as machine or mechanical doubling, not a doubled die. See Double Dies vs. Machine Doubling | NGC (ngccoin.com). Coins featuring strike doubling, which results from a die being loose in the press, are very common and worth no premium. Your coin has strange looking surfaces and an odd, incomplete rim. I'm not sure that it is genuine in the first place. Counterfeits of even very common coins like this are being produced in Asia. Here are photos of a typical genuine coin of this issue that PCGS graded MS 65:
  15. Welcome to the NGC chat board. Your inquiry is confusing because along with a photo of the obverse of a coin that may or may not be the rare "Goodacre Presentation" version of the 2000-P Sacagawea dollar, you show photos of a mint roll that would contain ordinary 2000-D pieces, of which nearly 519 million were struck. Both these and the ordinary 2000-P pieces (over 767 million struck) are only worth face value in circulated or low mint state grades and only worth a significant premium if certified in gem mint state grades. A regular 2000-P Sacagawea dollar graded MS 66 has a retail list value of $12.50 on the NGC Price Guide, whereas a Goodacre Presentation piece in SP 66 lists $375. The PCGS Price Guide shows higher prices. It appears that most of these coins are now in PCGS holders, and a few have been certified by NGC as well. See https://www.pcgs.com/coinfacts/coin/2000-p-sac-1-goodacre-presentation/99584, 2000 P GOODACRE PRESENTATION $1 SP | Coin Explorer | NGC (ngccoin.com)
  16. Please post full, cropped photos of each side of a coin about which you have questions. Your cent could have a die crack, but it's hard to tell only from close-ups.
  17. Obviously, the rim ding wasn't severe enough in the graders' opinion to warrant a "Details" grade for this well-circulated coin. I have observed that the more worn a coin is, the more surface damage is allowed before the coin will be "Details" graded. Even uncirculated coins are allowed some issues. This 1883-O dollar has a small but noticeable rim ding at 11:30, but PCGS graded it MS 66.
  18. You should send an email to NGC at the address linked on the following "Security Center" page under the topic "What to Do When You Encounter Fraud." NGC Security Center | NGC (ngccoin.com). However, if this website is based overseas, there may not be much that NGC can do about it.
  19. No, we don't have the same issue! Every pure copper or 95% or more copper bronze or brass coin starts out "red" when struck. It changes to "red and brown" and/or "brown" due to chemical reactions with substances in the atmosphere to which it has been exposed or on surfaces with which it has come in contact, even if it has no circulation wear. Among most collectors, the more original "red" color such a copper or copper alloy coin has, the more desirable it is. The distinction is one made for grading purposes and is somewhat subjective. Everyone who has collected gold alloy coins knows that they, too, can vary somewhat in color based upon environmental exposure or possibly manufacturing processes. U.S. gold coins minted from 1837 until 1933 are supposed to all be composed of 90% gold, 10% copper, but they vary in color from a bright yellow to a more orange to even a reddish tint. Earlier U.S. gold coins were struck in either .9167 (1795-1834) or .8992 (1834-37) gold, with silver as well as copper in their alloys. They, too, may vary in color. The color differences aren't verbally distinguished among collectors or grading services, although a gold coin might achieve a slightly higher numerical grade based upon an attractive color adding to its "eye appeal." The 1882 Italian gold coin to which you are referring is distinguished as a different variety based on its being struck in a different alloy from the others. "Red gold" is a variety designation, not a grading term. Presumably, NGC's graders are concerned that they can't tell whether one of these coins was actually struck in "red gold" just by looking at it and don't want to take the chance that the coin turns out to be "red" due to environmental factors, not a 10% copper alloy. They have the right to make this determination as a business matter. You have the right not to use their services or to regard your coin as "red gold" and so label its holder as you wish. Generally, NGC will not identify a variety that is not listed in NGC's "VarietyPlus" listing. The 1882 "Red Gold" 20 lire is not so listed. See G20L | VarietyPlus® | NGC (ngccoin.com). The inclusion of a registry slot for this variety, likely by a programmer who hadn't consulted with the graders about this, was misleading and to that extent you have a valid cause for complaint.
  20. 1951-S Washington-Carver commemorative half dollar, NGC graded MS 65+:
  21. It appears that CAC will grade all modern U.S. issues except for irregularly shaped pieces such as Basketball or Apollo 11 commemoratives or 5 oz. silver pieces. See https://www.cacgrading.com/coins-accepted/grading.
  22. Welcome to the NGC chat board. When you put a set on the competitive registry, it is viewable by the public unless you designate it as a (noncompetitive) private set, and you can send your friends a link by copying and pasting the address, for example, Set Details | NGC Registry | NGC (ngccoin.com), which is one of my registry sets. Certain information, such as the NGC Price Guide values of the coins and the certification number (unless it is on an included photo) can only be seen if you are logged in. (Only NGC certified coins and PCGS certified U.S. coins can be included in the competitive registry.) See NGC Registry | Online Coin Registry Set Collecting | NGC (ngccoin.com) and this forum for instructions on how to create sets and otherwise use the registry.
  23. 2019-S "Enhanced Reverse Proof" Kennedy half dollar, NGC graded PF 69: