Henri Charriere

Look at the workmanship of those Master Engravers! (The one thing that has always puzzled me about the ASE is while the weight of the coin is depicted, the fineness of the silver is not. Why?)

If that were true my 1986 and the 1995-W would be worth the same price, proof or not. Ditto for an Englehardt silver bar with a low serial number, and an identical one with a high number produced years later.

Than you gentlemen, for responding by reholstering your guns an tasers and providing the information I requested with a calm, civil and courteous manner.

@Alex in PA. My wife said it best when I told her man had been to the moon: "HOW did they get there? WHAT did they find?" I know how they got there; I don't know what they found. What I would really like to know is what NASA, the Space Force, the endless probes to inhospitable places is costing the American public.

Well, that's a luxury, sleep, I don't have. The 🐓🐓🐓 keep me up all night long. No, not the ones I have. The two I don't have and can't have because no one knows where they are, they aren't rare and, despite the fact over 12 million have been minted between them, not one has been NGC certified MS-67 for the year 1913 and not one has been PCGS certified MS-67 for the year 1914. How can I possibly sleep not knowing whether they exist, where, who's got one or both, why they haven't bothered to certify them -- and why, over a hundred years later, no one can offer a responsible way to determine their unknown whereabouts and contact their [clueless] owners in a responsible, socially-acceptable manner? Sleep? I'm am 70. Failure is not an adoption. You understand because you have the same problem -- minus the over-the-top obsession. Reward? That works for people, makes, models, VINs and colors for cars but not for asking a clueless owner to gamble a lot of money to submit something they are content to describe as nice-looking (which an encompass any of 37 grades), old and possibly a wedding gift with great sentimental value, just to satisfy a collector's desire to fill a hole. Sweet dreams, gentlemen.

You give me too much credit. If you would be so kind as to direct your attention to the post directly above yours labeled "accidental duplicate post" -- which was nothing but a giant waste of space, pending deletion, I volunteered to use it honorably to keep guys like me from derailing threads which inevitably leads to world heavy-weight bouts of the little guy (defended by me) being belittled and marginalized so much by the Hulk Hogans that he resigns himself to lurking or moves on to another Forum from which he hasn't been barred from. No Administrator and team of Moderators with their own boundaries would have granted my request. It was simply my tongue-in-cheek way of finding and exploiting a loophole. As the lowest ranked member, I enjoy the luxury of contemplating the outrageous, then sitting back and seeing what happens. If you are afforded the rare opportunity to read and witness this attempt detonate and its somewhat harmless author issued yet another warning, yes, for simply suggesting it and considering the limitless potential possibilities, and incurring yet another banishment including going to bed without supper consider yourself luckier than the next guy who spots a coelacanth somewhere in the waters off the eastern sub-continent or an ivory-billed woodpecker in a remote Louisiana Bayou. It's 3:20 am in New York City. Member MAULEMALL badmouths the city with its inhabitants -- which a recent trend disclosed discosed come from elsewhere because the truth (or alternate) strongly suggests he has never stepped foot here in his life. Time for QA to go to bed. It's been a pleasure! Even President Carter allowed that he had committed adultery in his heart. Let those without sin cast the first stone. The one I cleverly usurped from @Woods020Woods020 "Accidentally duplicated"... at the very top of the post (with a limited life expectancy.)

@James Zyskowski Now I understand. You are a very resourceful collector! I guess there is nothing that justifies exclusion except the lack of a vacancy. Very nice collection! (And certainly makes any controversy concerning anatomical representations with the Saint-Gaudens DE and Standing Liberty quarter tame by comparison.)

You used your ferocious 🐕; that's why. I went to an ancient hardware store and displaying the carcass of a formerly intact slab and the owner emphasized the reason why they are difficult to open is because they were never meant to be. It's difficult to argue with logic but the gentleman said the ideal tools would be a knife sharpened not only on one side but at its tip, and a small hammer. You would work it along the seam bit by bit all around until you were back to square one, and continue, as many times as it took to get enough of an opening to introduce a chisel or other wedgelike instrument until a pair of pliers -- and patience -- helped you achieve your one and only goal: extricating a coin safely with the least amount of damage. (Using a chair leg is not unlike a woman smoking in public: a display of bad manners.) What I would like to have is the security clearance required to access the meticulously kept records maintained by each TPGS, in complete secrecy, regarding the total numbers of coins submitted for cross-grading, their origin and how many passed or failed. No TPGS will confirm or deny such record-keeping exists. Technical vs marketing grading is merely an attempt to circumvent a coin that passes or fails to qualify for a simple grade. For that, you use plus ➕ signs and stars ☆.

@James Zyskowski No suspect should be eliminated from a line-up. If it managed to make its way past the cartels and across the border, post his mugshot here and let the membership decide if it deserves a place in your collection. To quote the Great Zadok, any question regarding provenance would be a moot point where whippersnappers are concerned.

@Walkerfan Ah, just the right person to ask... As you may know I got a beat down and emerged battered and bruised over a life-threatening matter: rivets. That's right, rivets. As in those regularly-spaced protrusions on Lady Liberty's hand-held shield. Would you be able to tell me beginning in what year did the problem of "missing" rivets arise and why? I am, of course, referring to coins like yours in Mint State condition and not the lower grades where wear would be a factor. (Very lovely quarter 🍒 with an enviably low certification number.)

I am going to take a wild guess here and rule out incandescents.

Common? Are you sure about that? The design is virtually counterfeit-proof. And from the Denver mint no less!

[It is a shame upwards of thirty (30) comments were deleted from this thread.]

Remember the Maine!

None of the use umbrellas either; police officers don't but not on religious grounds.

Any person unfamiliar with the hobby would find this to be a most curious statement. Example, real estate: "Those are original Spanish tiles, my friend. Not to mention the fluted Corinthian columns." "Yeah, but your house is worth more. You have a crack in the rusticated brickwork where it meets the strongly accented quoins." *** Moderator: Violation: non-numismatic. QA: Whaddya mean? Of course, it's numismatic. Why, because I misspelled coins?

I love their slogan: The Connoisseur's HALLMARK Grading Service. First time I have seen any holder with the grade on both sides. If I am not mistaken, this coin is one of the few named after the figure depicted on the reverse and incorrectly referred to as a Buffalo instead of a bison.

A mask is a suitable substitute for those who refuse to be vaccinated on religious grounds. Whether they would go so far as to cut off their 3-foot long beards like I did is another story.

[Over twelve hundred posts spread over forty+ pages. This thread continues to chug along very briskly. Congratulations to all for a wonderful, enjoyable and highly informative read!]

I am afraid the 1972 doesn't count as the baby the A is carrying is in its eighth month of gestation.

[I don't think being masked is going to change @MAULEMALL's feelings about New York or the people who live there. Plus, one of them reportedly collects 🐓. ]

I believe another Google tidbit was 90% of all deaths attributed, rightly or wrongly, as a contributing factor or not, involved unmasked people.

Does that make up for Tornado Alley, the hurricanes 🌀 and absence of roadside coin stands?

If Marine One were to land on your outside lawn, would you demand to see some ID? Revel in your celebrity! (Incidentally, no way is the administration of drugs, oral or intravenously, with or without your consent, in complete anonymity (as opposed to, with confidentiality) legal. Next thing, you'll be insisting census/population figures for coins are not to be trusted.)