Fenntucky Mike

They beat the snot out of that one. Yikes!

AI is in its infancy and is quite often wrong or misleading when generating descriptions, documents, etc., for coins and most things in general as you have stated, but where can it go from here? How useful can it become and how will it be used in numismatics in the future? To expand on my hypotheticals in the OP. If auction houses generally shift to AI and use it for lot descriptions will subpar and misleading commentary provide an advantage to a more knowledgeable bidder who relies less on descriptions, or will it just keep the riffraff out and the sharps keep sharping? A good description can help a lot and a poor or inaccurate one can hurt but how much? As AI becomes more accurate will there be less lots slipping through, e.g. varieties that are not listed in a description or on a TPG label, minor doubling that would not normally be noted is, etc.? Will AI cherry pick all the lots, list them, and be more accurate and find more than is done now resulting in fewer deals or bargains for bidders? With more and more high resolution images being taken of coins and banknotes, available data, and most cellphones having the capability to take these images how soon will AI become proficient at determining a relative grade or condition of a coin? When will AI be a useful numismatic research tool, if ever? FlyingAl's proof cameo project comes to mind, if and when enough images are collected can they be ran through an AI program to determine die varieties and identify differences (die markers)? Could AI be used to decipher mint documents from scans or images of the originals , transcribe, sort, and provide meaningful data, information or articles? How will TPG's use this technology? Plenty of scenarios out there for AI and numismatics, good and bad.

...are pathetic at the moment. I noticed the other day that one of the bigger overseas auction houses is using GPT to generate auction descriptions for all lots, and the few I've read so far are either misleading or flat-out wrong. What, if any, consequences will there be? Will there be more opportunities for knowledgeable buyers? Will there be less "deals" to be had in the future as AI advances and is able to identify coins and banknotes better and pick out varieties? When will AI be used to grade coins and determine value? Will AI solve the '64 SMS coins riddle? Below is one listing with GPT description. This is not the worst I've read but wanted to pick out a U.S. coin since that is what most here collect.

I guess I'm a little surprised not to see Germany on the list and that earnings are supposedly tops in Switzerland. When compared to the NGC top 10 most coins graded list there are only four crossovers. NGC's Most Graded List by country, top ten. U.S. China Canada Australia South Africa Great Britain Mexico Russia Poland Germany

I would not hesitate to add a contemporary counterfeit to my collection, it adds to the overall narrative of a series and depth to a collection imo. The coin in question appears to be weakly struck in places and has an abundance of what look like raised lines in the fields on both sides. I've not viewed many coins from this series but I can say that the few I have did not have those attributes. I'm a little skeptical that it is a counterfeit having an identical composition as an authentic piece and nearly the same weight but...

I wonder how long SB will have to sit on these. I'm not sure if SB purchased them from the RM to auction or if the RM consigned them. Seems like the RM consigned them if I'm reading everything correctly. I just got another notice from SB for post auction buying of the Pyx coins, looks like there were 376 passed pieces and 244 that sold between the two Pyx auction sessions.

My thought is ambitious reserves coupled with the condition of the coins caused people to shy away.

FedEx may have unintentionally bailed you out of a potential $1,000+ loss, not as good as if the coin turned out to be authentic, which I'm still skeptical of, but you wouldn't be out anything either as long as the package was properly insured. Just saying. Hopefully they find the package, the coin makes it to NGC, and it turns out to be authentic.

Wow, a lot of reserves were not met in the Pyx auction. SB is listing the passed coins with BIN price tags. I haven't seen this many passed coins in a long time.

Complete rubbish if you're talking about the orientation of the edge lettering.

NGC has been slabbing colorized coins for years, the only caveat is that the colorization must have been done or authorized by the mint producing the coins. I haven't seen these coins before but the Cook Islands are always selling their name to Mints, allowing them to produce gobs of NCLT pieces. Tuvalu and Niue are two more countries that cash in on NCLT.

Doesn't look like NGC has a slot in the Morgan Dollar Hot 50 VAMs registry set which is located HERE. You can post a request to add this coin to the registry in the below topic which is pinned to the top of this forum or email registry@NGCcoin.com. Sandon also gave you some excellent suggestions. Good luck.

I kind of like that the fields are very large on the obv, really makes the Statue of Liberty stand out and gives it an added level of gravitas and meaning to me. Kind of a gutsy design choice but would have made finding one of these that looked good in circulation a real difficult task. The reverses on the Innovation Dollars haven't been that good for the most part, the one in the OP is ok but I would have rather seen a McCormick mechanical reaper or thresher, the Mint was probably correct in keeping the design simple though. I tend to associate steel plows or bottom plows with TX, OK, and the dust bowl.

Agree, after I clicked submit reply and took another look at the pics I didn't like what I wrote. I was looking at "RICA" and the rim by it, which look weak, a typical die crack will not effect the die enough to cause an effect like this and I was trying to think of an additional descriptor, or different one other than die crack, for this. Partially collapsed/sunken reverse die would have maybe been better. EDIT TO ADD: I took a look over at error-ref and I think the die crack on this coin closely matches the description of a what they call a Bi-level die crack.

Adjectivally graded coins can be added to registry sets but at the lowest grade in the assigned adjectival grade's range, in this case 60, it would have to be regraded and assigned a straight grade to be placed in a higher slot in a registry set. I'm assuming that the price difference between 60, 61, 62, 63 coins is miniscule at best, another reason to adjectivally grade this coin in a bulk submission. Minimal investment for a bulk submitter to have a coin like this adjectivally graded in hopes of finding someone with "SRS" or someone who wanted an authenticated piece for whatever reason.

Possible shattered die with retained cud, could you post pics of the entire coin obverse and reverse please. Welcome to the Forum.

I'd put it at a 62 maybe a little higher, pics aren't the best.

Those are always popular and damn nice looking coins. What is the medal in the set this year?

Looks more like it was hit by a Mack Truck. I don't see any obvious signs of heat damage, usually you'll see areas that look like someone popped a chewing gum bubble or discoloration. Could have been exposed to heat at some point but when a coin gets to this stage who knows or cares. The most important thing to know is that none of this happened while the coin was being produced.

Could be MB-269. Ok, below is a link to the CNS book where you can download a .pdf. https://www.academia.edu/26698446/Vladimír_Hanibal_Emil_Novák_Malé_groše_Small_Groschen_Kleine_Groschen The MB#'s are from Krause (The Standard Catalog of World Coins) and stand for Mishler-Bruce who were the catalogers of such pieces, I believe one or both had worked at Krause. At one point Krause was back-building catalogs, first to 1701 then to 1601-1700, but never completed a Standard Catalog for 1501-1600 even though a substantial amount of cataloging had been done. The MB#'s seem to mostly consist of coins who's existence predates 1601 and which were included in the last edition of the SCWC 1601-1700 as work was stopped on the 1501-1600 catalog. Not really helpful to your cause but I found it interesting and thought I'd post it for others to see. There is a viewable copy of the SCWC 1601-1700 which includes MB#'s, you can find it HERE. Krause is good, Numista is better but you have to take all of the information with a grain of salt, both are imperfect and neither contain all available info for every coin.I also just noticed that there is a notation for some of the MB#'s stating "Varieties Exist", if you really want to dive deep into these you're going to have to find more specialized references and don't be surprised if most and/or the best are in another language but I think you're close with the MB-269 so you might not have to delve too much more deeply. Good luck.

Looks real, worth 10¢ U.S.. How about posting the 6 pence?

Welcome to the forum. Could you post some pictures of the coin please.

Are there any specific coins that you'll be looking for?

If you know someone who specializes or is extremely familiar with these I would definitely take it to them. If you're talking about having this authenticated by a TPG that is also a good option if you're relatively certain it's authentic. If you lived near a TPG and could hand deliver it I'd say it'd be a no brainer, put a low dollar value on it and let them decide if it's real. If you're looking to sell it then you could talk with some of the major auction houses to see what they think.