zadok

i do believe its a '43/2 variety as well.....

those plus a couple others......(1) anonymity, i have some rare pedigreed unslabbed condition census coins that i want to keep that way, slabbing creates an audit trail as does registry sets, these coins r off the market n will probably stay that way for a few decades at least n i prefer to keep it that way...their rarity will not diminish n their infrequent appearance availability wont decrease their value...im not adverse to slabbing or registry sets, i have 30+ sets now, but those coins i dont really care if anyone knows where they r, but some of my others i do...holding coins in my hands that eliasberg, norweb, garret, menjou, brand, bareford et al  held in theirs is satisfaction enuf, i have no need to publicize that...for example if my collection happens to holds a '07 uhr or a '27-d saint its no one else's concern, just the fact that they exist is all that matters, their whereabouts isnt relevant...(2) fear, there r those that possess certain coins that r reluctant to have them certified...they either know that their coins wont certify n grade at the grade they want them to be or r afraid to find out...im aware of some highly pedigreed n exceptional coins that r not certified n their owners know that the coins will almost certainly be classified as details if submitted or fear so, so its better to just minimize tpg than take the chance...and of course the reasons u previously gave, confidence in the mails n the loneliness of being without ur favorite rooster while hes gone.....

i do believe its a '43/2 variety as well.....

the coin doesnt need to be reholdered to receive a cac bean.....

observation.....from what i see, the cac bean is presently adding a % to resale value for almost all series...having said that, the % increase isnt the same for all series....in some of the more common series, 20th cent, the increase seems like 15 % in some, 19th cent, it has recently risen to 30-40%...overall to answer op quest it seems fair to say the cac bean equates to the added value a + would add to the coin....i dont see the cac bean becoming common place in any given series as in theory it represents the top 10 % or so of all coins in  that date n grade in that series only, its not a cumulative evaluation...
 

i do believe its a '43/2 variety as well.....

nope, same clique same agenda same small circle....running headlong towards irrelevancy, numismatist doing same thing...minimal collector value...very limited reasons for new collectors to join other than just belonging or getting free ngc membership...few decent classes for yn members...

This is why I refer to you fondly as the Great Zadok.
This possibility has never occurred to me probably because doing so reeks of grave desecration.  But now that you've mentioned French 20-franc gold [rooster possibilities] I don't know how I am possibly going to get any sleep.
And who knows how many other hoards await discovery?
Definitely a valid point!

wheres charles bronson when u need him?....

i'll drink to that......

wheres charles bronson when u need him?....

83-cc....green
85-cc....no, lots of chatter
78-cc....no, again excessive chatter
91-cc....iffy, but prob green

no...

national parks foundation....medallic arts company (maco)....one of a series of medallions on national parks done by frank gasparro, bronze some silver washed, marked on the edge etc......

sunshine mining company......at one time one of north americas largest producers of silver ore, bullion, rounds, bars etc...also produced custom order medallions in larger sizes for various commercial endeavors...filed for bankruptcy in mid 90s....some their series very artistic, limited collector value mostly geographically localized but usually at melt value or slightly above.....mine n company located in idaho.....

national parks foundation....medallic arts company (maco)....one of a series of medallions on national parks done by frank gasparro, bronze some silver washed, marked on the edge etc......

national parks foundation....medallic arts company (maco)....one of a series of medallions on national parks done by frank gasparro, bronze some silver washed, marked on the edge etc......

sunshine mining company......at one time one of north americas largest producers of silver ore, bullion, rounds, bars etc...also produced custom order medallions in larger sizes for various commercial endeavors...filed for bankruptcy in mid 90s....some their series very artistic, limited collector value mostly geographically localized but usually at melt value or slightly above.....mine n company located in idaho.....

ur beliefs r well grounded....as far as i recall when i last did any research on this topic....there were only (9) morgan dollars graded ms69 n (0) graded ms70 as for the peace dollars (0) in both grades....not aware of any recently reaching either grade....

unfortunately the number has been disconnected....ms blackman is no longer with us she passed at age 94...incidentally she was 8 years old when ur precious '33 saints were minted, personally id give her a PR70 rating...rip

chicken dinner....

currently if r status tracking says ur package is still in transit then it is still in usps hands, when it arrives at ngc zip code ur usps status update will say arrived at that zip code n then if u request in ur tracking request it will show when available for pick up, thats when it transfers from usps to ngc, then it could take days to be opened n listed on ur submission status tracking at ngc....once u see available for pick up u can basically relax n when u see received on ngc staus u know its in the system....for example i talked to ngc today n they were just opening mail they received on 7 april today.....

yep he did set of patterns on dime quarter half, there a set in the smithsonian collection...

very thoughtful n insightful responses all...so far no name calling, spitefulness, baiting, trolling, ego boosting replies, a pleasant respite, just a sharing of honest thoughts on a communal hobby, refreshing, a commendable thread....seems like a recurring thread within the thread is the historical aspect of the coins themselves, realistically one of the underlying reasons of collecting is to impart ourselves onto the history of the coin or even the other way around, being a part of or owning a part of that coins history, all good things...
why do i collect?.....its a quest....

very thoughtful n insightful responses all...so far no name calling, spitefulness, baiting, trolling, ego boosting replies, a pleasant respite, just a sharing of honest thoughts on a communal hobby, refreshing, a commendable thread....seems like a recurring thread within the thread is the historical aspect of the coins themselves, realistically one of the underlying reasons of collecting is to impart ourselves onto the history of the coin or even the other way around, being a part of or owning a part of that coins history, all good things...
why do i collect?.....its a quest....