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This is the only Pilgrim Tercentenary Medal I've owned in the past:

Q.A.:  Behold!  My latest acquisition.
🐓:  A brand-new 2024 Lincoln. First time I've seen one of those!  When did you get it?
Q.A.:  Last nite at the corner bodega.
🐓:  I understand the flip, but what's with the $1000 price tag?  It's got a rim-ding.
Q.A.:  EXACTLY!  That's the damage it sustained during the Earthquake.  When's the last time you saw an 1857-S SSCA coin marked PMD?  NEVER!  It's a Shipwreck coin, not a parking lot find.  Same here. It survived the Earthquake!
🐓 :  What earthquake?
Q.A.:  The one at 10:23 a.m. earlier today. The one you evidently napped through.  The whole building was vibrating with intensity. The coin bounced about two inches, off the table, missed my lap, and hit the floor. We're rich I tell you! Rich!!!
🐓 :  How 'bout we run this by our Grand Master first?
Q.A.  Are you crazy? He's gonna want proof! Even a blow-by-blow on video isn't good enough for him!  Man, you sure know how to hurt a guy!  
🐓:  Welcome to Numismatics and the Forum!  
 
 
 
 
 

...the good the bad n the ugly....

... your words, not mine... most telling...
... incidentally... here is how I spell I.R.S., with all caps...
Edit ... make that a doubly sad emoji... epitaph is spelled with two pp's...

We are already in an age-related redistribution of collector coins (and kegs of wheat cents, etc.). Children born 1935-1950, who collected coins, are now dying at an accelerating rate. Without a specific, previously unidentified source, the "hoard" is merely part of statistical randomness. (Humans are sensitive to pattern making - it is one way we organize the world. Pareidolia is one kind of the same class of human organizational actions.)

[I do not know know the gentleman, only some of what he's written. But I can speak for myself and if someone were to ask me a question like that, regarding a possible hoard, I hate to say it but I would respond in true Noo Yawk fashion, demanding to know:  WHO WANTS TO KNOW???]   🤣

Nice, a couple more for the list. 
I have a handwritten list going right now, if I get time this weekend I'll start entering everything into a spreadsheet and do a deep dive to see if I can add to it. After that, it's coin finding time.
I may start a Journal here to track progress, post the list, images, etc.. We'll see...

...the good the bad n the ugly....

...i think u r correct, after looking further his coinage designs were considerably more than i first realized... british honduras, iraq, jamaica, new zealand, hong kong, jersey, cyprus, mauritius...im sure u have more.... 

I remember it well. The mint said the coin was a thank you for those that bought the gold set each year. 
Those that had been collecting the Silver Eagles from the start were really ticked. They had been paying $23 each year but now had to spend $1000 to keep their sets complete. For months CoinWorld was filled with letters to the editor from mad collectors. Many thought the mint would back down and offer just the Silver Eagle to everyone. They didn't and that was just the beginning of the games the mint started playing with collectors. 
Below is the mailing that was sent out in 1995.
 

...revisit ur thoughts after another thousand posts or so n after u have been subjected to some of the bs u will read here...until then ill just overlook the above....

...revisit ur thoughts after another thousand posts or so n after u have been subjected to some of the bs u will read here...until then ill just overlook the above....

...u have to whisper that down there....

"... curiouser and curiouser," as Alice in Wonderland would say.  Or, to borrow from the irrepressible Kurt:  "No. Stop it."
To paraphrase the Queen of Mean (the late Leona Helmsley) "the non-Mint State coins are for the little people."  If what you say is true, let it be. The market decides everything but the level of water which always seems to seek its own level. I am not qualified to weigh in on EF/AU affairs. In my series, I have never set my sights on any example marooned at that level of drought.  Now, suggest MS-67 really ought to be worth twice as much as an MS-66, and dem's fightin' words!  But again, I am weak and the Market is strong.  (Quiet is kept... the reason my F20FrGR set is short, is quite simple. The powers-that-be on high, ruled that World Gold certified by other TPGSs is genetically incompatible with the NGC Set Registry. I decided early on to hew to the MS-66 grade line until it dawned on me MS-66 graded examples had yet to be certified for the older Originals, a fact that, with only 3 out of 8 exceptions, remains true some five years later.)
I do not know if the point has been raised, but even if my series were certified under a new scale, either a new set registry would have to be devised, or a suitable conversion table supplied.  As I have maintained all along, all of this newfangled stuff is for the benefit of the uninitiated.  Those of us who've been around will leave well enough alone.
 

Governor Macquarie set the value of the holey dollar at five shillings, with 15 pence for the dump. These coins went into circulation in 1814. The New South Wales colonial administration began recalling the holey dollars and dumps and replacing them with sterling coinage starting in 1822. When the holey dollar was finally demonetised in 1829, most of the 40,000 coins in circulation had been exchanged.
 

Given the choice of a grade rarity such as a 1995-W-CDAM, which number in the scores, the true "rarity," which in my view (tongue-in-cheeek)  would be a designated  "lowball" which to date does not as yet exist.  I

Bobby, let me be as direct as I can. The vaaaaaast majority of posts DESERVE NEGATIVITY. They are THAT stupid. Most posts, especially, in the Newbie section, are so utterly inane that showing ANY positivity is doing the new collector no service. None at all.
People who go to discussion boards FIRST, before basic guide books, are actually ANNOYING, once it becomes a pattern. When I have a question, I STILL go to printed sources first, even now. The Internet is a “hot mess” when it comes to numismatics. 

I don't see the 95-W as rare but I feel it is the key date to the series. This is one of those coins that many will always call rare.  

...well it is april first...n there is no limit to the number of fools out there...stands to reason a few would show up today, unfortunately some show up every day...but then again a few do live in the shallow end of the gene pool....

Yes, you may consider the 1995-W Proof Silver Eagle a "key" date in that series, just as you may consider the 1909-S V.D.B. cent a "key" date in the Lincoln cent series. However, a modern coin issued as a collector's item with 30,125 reported sold and nearly all likely still in existence in high grades can't be considered a truly "rare" coin. Their high price results from high demand that is largely driven by market hype. 
   There are a number of much lower mintage and scarcer U.S. coins that sell for a fraction of what these Silver Eagles cost, for example, post-1862 three cent silver pieces and certain gold dollars and classic commemoratives.  The challenge is to find them.

...ur endeavor is compelling n exhaustive, im not sure that there is a comprehensive list of either his coinage or medal designs...short of discovering a personal list of his own ur list may be the definitive one...i agree a collection of just his coinage designs n not a collection by denominations would suffice, n even that would be ambitious.... 

I'm thinking the number is going to be between 24-36 obv and rev designs by PM on coinage, current list is up to 20 or so. I'm not planning on picking up examples of the same design used on different denominations or by different countries, the number of pieces would be huge if going that route. The unknown is the number of unmarked designs such as the British '37 three pence reverse and Figi six pence turtle rev, pieces with no initials will be more difficult to identify and add to the list. 

There are a great many assertions and observations offered best left to the other combatants to sort out.  I would like to address just the excerpt I have singled out.  It's the late 1980's.  You have just been recruited as a freshly minted, anointed grader. The bulk of TPSs submissions, I would imagine, would comprise coins that have experienced circulation. (Bear in mind, the virus that causes the afflicted to submit perfectly good Proof coins still lodged in OGH had not yet been isolated and identified.) Your tendency, possessed with unchecked powers, is to allow your emotions to supersede your training.  But The Company men are there to stress to you that if you freely assign lovely coins higher grades, what will you do when the real McCoy comes along?  @Coinbuf who knows a thing or two about stellar examples, dropped a jewel here.  IN THE BEGINNING, man had to tread easy.  Once overgraded, there's no going back.  So coins were conservatively graded and in later years experienced collectors with discriminating eyes would spot them and resubmit them for a higher grade.  I have no problem with this. It is, in fact, the first time a plausible explanation has been aired here as credible fact. 🐓 

Welcome to the NGC chat board. 
   See the following topic on the Registry forum for NGC's explanation: NGC Registry- Where do I add my Ancient coins? - NGC Registry Help and Instructions - NGC Coin Collectors Chat Boards
   There are thousands of different types of ancient coins, some of which are difficult to authenticate or attribute, and there do not appear to be any generally accepted grading standards for them.  It would be very difficult to define or score an appropriate number of slots for any competitive set that would be all-inclusive or be satisfactory to all collectors who wanted to participate.  Custom sets, though not scored, afford collectors of ancient coins that have been encapsulated by NGC Ancients an opportunity to display and describe their coins in accordance with their own preferences, and NGC does give annual awards to Custom sets, including for the "Best Ancient Custom Set". See The NGC Registry Awards | NGC (ngccoin.com).
 
 

...u r trying to over simplify a complex issue with different variables...e.g. raw submissions vs crossovers, "market vs technical", ms/au vs au/ms, au55 vs au58, not to mention the issues regarding toning etc...moral is dont put all ur easter eggs in one basket...just to illustrate one of ur concerns, ms to au...submitter has option of agreeing to crossover with reduction of grade or refusing reduction n return of coin, so many diff reasons to go both ways depending on what the coin is...i presently have coins for crossover submitted both ways, some im hoping for the reduction, some it would be counter productive...not a one size fits all scenario....