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I'm not asking or wishing you to leave, nor am I expecting you to not have your own opinion. I'm just asking you to not trash another member by making assumptions about what motivates their collecting decisions on what to buy. It is just this type of bashing others from only assumptions that is contributing to making this place so toxic, I have been guilty of this and am trying to make an active effort to not do so going forward. That is why I asked if your comment was an opinion that was biased on actually seeing the previous coin, I did not want to make an assumption as to if you had or not. If you are unhappy and concerned about the direction of the hobby or how numbers and labels are (in your opinion) ruining it, then please start a thread yourself and begin a discussion on the subject. I have no doubt that there are members who feel the same way as you and it could make for a good thread. Forum members having a good discussion about the hobby is good for the community.

My personal opinion is that VF20 is fair, the details could support a bit higher grade, but I think the graders took into account some heavy (thou most are old and toned over) marks and gave it a silent net grade. I would not be overly surprised if it graded higher today.

I think it would be correct to edit/change the title of your thread. I understand your displeasure with the outcome; however, I do not see NCS using any restoration techniques or products that would have resulted in the now obvious hairlines. As others have opined the most likely scenario is that during the restoration the old cleaning was uncovered.

It really is interesting how some collectors (not roll searchers) have found lots and others have found few or none. I assume that some of it is affected by how much cash or plastic everyone uses in their everyday lives. I was lucky to have found quite a few and was able to trade some of the dupes I found for the ones I had not. All the coins for both years I found are true circulation finds and are only AU condition coins, but perfect for the album. Seems that you found a perfect solution for your collection as well, congrats.

Knowledge is power, there is an old saying among collectors; buy the book before you buy coins. There are lots of good dealers out there but the best way to not be taken advantage of is to read and study before you buy.

Ouch! I sure hope that you did not pay very much for this coin, there is nothing about that toning that is anything close to legit. Sorry to see that you were taken advange of like this.

Where to begin, the hobby of coin collecting has many paths. While it is indeed likely that there are some collectors that fixate on the points and labels you are painting with a very broad brush and making a great many assumptions. There is no field manual for the right way to collect coins, some collect only perfect MS or PF 70 moderns, some only collect extremely well circulated coins, coin collecting is a personal decision that each collector makes depending on his or her goals. Sure, if a collector wishes to have a top-ranking registry set they will most likely have to purchase very high-grade coins. But it is very wrong of you to assume that it is only the points that drive the desire to purchase high grade coins. I can only speak for myself, but when I buy an upgrade I buy a coin that is better in quality, not because the grade on the label says so but because I say the new coin is better. This year I bought an MS68 coin to upgrade a previous MS67, yes that new coin did indeed give me more points for my set; but I bought that coin because it is a much nicer coin not just because of the grade on the label. Having said that yes there are collectors that are focused on the points and label, their hobby their choice. You don't have to like it but there is no need for you to bash them, in their own thread, for making a choice that fits their collecting goals. Yes TPGs, slabs, and the digital age has changed coin collecting and how we interact with other collectors. But collectors have been competing with and against each other since coin collecting began. So, this is nothing new and has been happening for way longer than 40 years. No, dissent by itself is not just baseless bashing, but when you participate in a thread and attack the op of that thread simply because, "you don't get it" that is not dissent that is an attack. You did not ask the op if he thought the upgrade coin was a better coin or did he just buy it for the points, you made an assumption. Look I personally will never understand the desire of some to collect lowball coins, or coin roll hunt, those areas in the hobby will never appeal to me. But it would be very wrong for me to jump into a member's thread and attack them just because, in your words, they fixate on the label or don't collect in a way that I find proper. If lowballs make them happy it simply does not matter if I understand the desire to do that. No need for the drama, coin collecting can be done on any budget, and does not require you or anyone else to participate in competitive registries to collect coins. That said, for those who wish to participate in a competitive registry and want a highly ranked set, many (most) of the registry sets likely will require a significant financial cost. However, there are some registry participants that have put together some very high raking sets for very minimal costs and are enjoying the registry without taking out a second mortgage. It is not always just about money.

As with your three Lincolns in your other thread this quarter is also not an error coin, just a well circulated coin struck from worn out dies. If you want to search for errors you have to know what to look for, just finding something you don't recognize is not a good way to find error coins. I suggest that you visit the website error-ref.com, read and study the sections on die errors, planchet errors, and striking errors. That will give you a decent start to know what to look for in the future.

I'm sorry to inform you that none of the three Lincoln Cents are off center error coins. To qualify as off center some of the lettering would need to be missing from both sides of the coin, there is no missing lettering on your coins. These three coins have no numismatic value and are only worth the face value of $.01.

This is the w/arrows type coin in my 7070 album, somewhat crusty looking but cleaned and retoned.

I don't really understand it from the announcement either, seems this will only confuse the market not make it less so.

Fantastic coins! This is another area that I have little of in my collection, while this gal has a rim hit and was cleaned in the past I still fine it a pleasing coin to view. If I recall correctly this photo template was originally created by member Hard Times and shared on the PCGS forum, I believe he uses a different name ats.

From you description it sounds like you have a damaged coin and the value would be $.01, but photos would be very helpful to see what you see.

Too bad, I was hoping there was a good reason for your baseless bashing post. This is the registry section of the forum, and the competitive registry is built around awarding points for the coin that are used. The higher the grade the more points, therefore I see no reason why a member could not discuss the points when discussing an upgrade, but that is just my thinking. Thanks for clearing that up.

Hold on we're not done with Morgan dollars yet. But that is a sweet seated quarter!

Same as above some are very cool and interesting but I don't seek them out, specifically for the clash. I would say that there some coins, Lincolns actually, that I would avoid if the clash really interfered with the look and design of the coin. I do find clashing on 3c silvers to often be rather charming, I have one or two but no photos of them to show the clash.

No. No value above face value.

I have always wanted a no stars type, this early design is so clean and seems less cluttered to my eye on a small coin. So when this was offered on the BST ats I was happy to add it to my collection, the NOLA mintmark is also cool as I believe this was the first year for dime production at the NOLA mint. Photos curtesy of the PCGS member that I bought it from.

Lol yes that 1917 is more my speed @robec1347, that gets a Ricko blast white sticker for sure.

Very baggy, great strike, hard to tell but the breast feathers look to have some broken luster, probably not enough to go AU. That ghosted line around the bottom of the bust is somewhat weird looking. Overall, I would grade it MS62 from these photos but would not be surprised with anything from AU58 to MS63.

Well at least I have a few more of these I can share, the winged liberty dime is a beautiful design and your 1940 is outstanding @ldhair. I generally gravitate towards blast white coins for a high percentage of my 19th century silver coins, but the tone on this coin struck me as appealing.

I am a fan of the seated design, but I only have a few type examples of each denomination in my collection. I would enjoy putting together a nice date run of dimes or half dimes someday, not sure if that will ever happen given my appetite for other series. I bought this coin from Gerry about a year or two back, these are photos taken by Mark Goodman.

So are you saying that you find the MS66 example to display better eye appeal than the new MS67 coin?