Mohawk

On 1/15/2022 at 7:38 AM, Hoghead515 said:

I knew soon as I seen it. That was one of my favorite movies back when I was a kid in the late 80s and early 90s.  

AWESOME ON YOU, HOG!!! I already knew you were a cool, great guy, but you've risen to even higher esteem with me, my friend.  Which is hard to do since I already hold you in very high esteem  

On 1/15/2022 at 4:17 PM, Oldhoopster said:

If you can ID the emperor (for Roman imperial), the following is a good site to search for ancient coin identification. You can also use it for Greek and Roman republic issues. Once you have a little experience, it's not much harder than attributing large cents by Sheldon number

I also believe theY have a partial legend search.  

Www.wildwinds.com

One thing about Wildwinds I learned from my ill fated and impossible Faustina II project.......Wildwinds is not complete.  It was what lulled me into the incorrect belief that a full set of known Faustina II types was something that was remotely possible.  It's a good resource for a lot of ancient coins, but it doesn't have everything.  Or even close to everything.  OCRE seems to be more complete than Wildwinds, but maybe a bit less user friendly than Wildwinds:

http://numismatics.org/ocre/

Excellent post, Jonathan and very necessary.  I think ancients confuse people more than any other kind of coin.  I hope that everyone wanting info on ancients reads this first.  It'd probably make the process better for everyone involved.  I wonder if we can get this pinned.....

On 1/15/2022 at 12:43 AM, Just Bob said:

That's a very interesting looking edge.

Welcome to the forum.

Agreed.  Welcome to the forum, Justyn.

On 1/15/2022 at 8:21 AM, Mr.Bill347 said:

Yes Mike, thank you. I have been trying to improve my coin photos.

Those are very nice pics, Bill.  Very well done 

On 1/14/2022 at 10:48 PM, Quintus Arrius said:

@Mohawk

I don't know anything about Canadian coins but your argument is persuasive -- even compelling, and very well written!  

Thanks!! Now let's just hope that the folks at NGC see it the same way.

On 1/14/2022 at 10:44 PM, tj96 said:

I thought just the opposite when I saw Canada and Finger Lakes in your signature block.  The Finger Lakes are beautiful up there!

I'm looking at your avatar, I can't make it out.  What I'm I looking at?

 

Yep....you wouldn't think snow wuss from a native of the Finger Lakes and massive Canadiophile (thanks for the kind words about my home.  I love it when it's not filled with 8 feet of snow!), but yes....total snow wussy.  As for my avatar, it's the character Mohawk from Gremlins 2.  The Gremlins movies were my absolute favorite films as a kid and I thought he'd make a good online handle and avatar.  Here's a bigger version of the photo:

On 1/14/2022 at 10:38 PM, tj96 said:

Yes, that helps a lot. Thanks for clarifying that.  I just don't want to get in trouble for posting the wrong thing in the wrong forum.

You won't.  We're a pretty chill bunch most of the time, and you're already fitting in with us well.  I think you'll be a valued member here for a long time.

I'm a native New Yorker and it's time for me to come out of the closet......I'm a total, 100% snow wuss.  I will go to great lengths not to have to drive in snow at all.  It scares the c*ap out of me!!! Thankfully, I work from home, so it's not a huge problem.  However, walking in it....that's a whole different story.  I've gone on many a snowy trek through wooded areas I could walk to in search of owls in the winter (I'm also a bird nut along with being a coin nut).

On 1/14/2022 at 10:29 PM, tj96 said:

So will most of my post be in the US, World, and Ancient Coins forum?

You can post wherever you like based on your inquiry or what you'd like to say.  It sounds like you're not a newbie to collecting, but this Newbie forum is a nice place to hang out.....you meet new arrivals here and can help new collectors by sharing your knowledge and answering their questions.  I enjoy doing both myself.  The US, World and Ancient Coins forum is also good.  You'll get the feel of where the best place for your posts are as you hang out more and interact with us.  It's one of those things that you learn by doing.  That's how it was for me, anyway.

On 1/14/2022 at 9:51 PM, Just Bob said:

Welcome to the forum. 

Sounds like you will fit in just fine.

By the way - we like coin pictures. Feel free to post pics of the type coins, albums. or anything else you want.

That we do.  Pics are always welcome  

On 1/14/2022 at 9:30 PM, tj96 said:

Thanks for the welcome gents!

Mohank-  Been collection since I was a kid with a paper route.   I'm not a dealer, trader, grader or investor, just a hobbyist. 

I guess my category of interest would be considered American classic coins.  I got hooked on completing and upgrading sets years ago.  Plus a type set, no gold.     Filling holes in Whitman's and Dansco's.  I may not fit into this forum very well. I've been known to break coins out and fill holes with them.   Especially, the key dates...  Mostly for authentication.  Also, straight grades, no cleaned, damaged or detailed coins........if I can help it.     

I'm still learning how to manipulate thru this forum.  I'm not even sure if I'm in the right thread! 

Thanks again for the welcome guys!  Glad to be here.

I think you'll fit in just fine.  There's nothing wrong with cracking a slab if that's what you want for your collection.  You'll meet many people here who are into U.S. classic stuff.  I'm not one of them myself (I like Canadian, German and ancients.  Along with paper money from almost anywhere), but it's cool to have a diversity of collecting interests.  Most of us are just hobbyists here, like you.  I'd definitely fall into that category....I'm just an Educational Sales Coordinator that sells coins occasionally to feed my numismatic addiction.  As for learning the forum, the best thing to do is just explore and ask questions.  Most of us are very willing to help new people out.

On 1/14/2022 at 8:07 PM, Patman54 said:

10-4 thanks  always appreciated and Is very helpful. I always attribute boredom to laziness doesn't mean that there's nothing to do just means that there's nothing that I want to do.  My kids always loved that one.

No problem, Patman.  Always glad to help out when I can.  One of these days, I'm going to have better news for you, though!

Man, Bill, it's been a while for me with any Victoria coinage, but I have to agree with Roger.  I think he's got it just right.  They're still nice coins though....I wouldn't kick them out of bed 

On 1/14/2022 at 8:45 PM, JKK said:

It could well be, Bob. I was going mainly by what looked like Greek lettering on the reverse. But I'm not married to that first take. When we get the measurables, I'll take a look at my Sears and the shiny new Lindgrens wife got me for the holidays.

On 1/14/2022 at 8:11 PM, Just Bob said:

This is why I said it looked Roman to me at first glance. I was just looking at some of these last week, and the OP's coin seemed to ring a bell in my mind. But you and John know much more about ancients than I do. Looking forward to seeing what it actually turns out to be.

 

Man, Bob....you're right.  It does look like it could be an earlier denarius!! Like Jonathan, I'm not completely invested in my first guess, either.  Jonathan....I know you have a much better research library than I do (but that's going to change once I start pulling in some good paychecks here soon), so I'm going to defer to you on this one.  It's definitely before the time where I'd consider myself versed in ancient coinage.

Hello and Welcome TJ!

It's always good to see new people here.  So, what are your collecting interests?  I'm sure we'd all like to know.

On 1/14/2022 at 8:06 PM, Woods020 said:

My biggest concern is my daughter isn’t ever going to be knowledgeable about coins. She likes to look through them with me from time to time, and loves seeing odd denominations that far predated her. That’s as far as I ever see her going. And I just worry because a large driver for me is to assemble something worth passing on and worth a meaningful amount that I don’t want to see get sold for pennies on the dollar. But I don’t think there is a magical solution. Leave as good of instructions as I can and hope she finds someone moral to help her when that time comes. 

I think you nailed it, Woods.  We can only do what we can do, you know?  Not everyone is destined to collect.  But maybe I can offer a suggestion.  Maybe you should at some point much later, since you're only 39 (younger than I by two years) and you'll likely outlive some dealers who are presently active, do some research and leave her a list of reputable dealers or numismatists that she can contact when the time does come for her to inherit and sell your collection.  If you do that homework for your daughter, I'd say that her chances of getting a fair price for everything goes up.  Just a thought.

On 1/14/2022 at 7:31 PM, Woods020 said:

I would attribute this to human boredom if I had to guess. 

Human boredom has caused many a strange thing to happen......and not just to coins.

On 1/14/2022 at 5:36 PM, Fenntucky Mike said:

If a coin is PL Cameo it's PL Cameo, if it's not it's not. I don't get it. 

Tell me about it, Mike.  That's my exact issue regarding these coins.  I'm hoping that NGC will reconsider grading them the way they have been the past few years.  It sucks to have a beautiful, PL Cameo coin come back from NGC with no acknowledgement of that status on the slab when you've paid NGC good money to grade and attribute your coin.  That happened to me one too many times since 2018.

Hi Patman!
Well, in looking at your coin, I think it is damage, unfortunately.  If you look closely, you can see how that last 9 is actually somewhat deformed, which indicates to me that it was hit or gouged at some point after it was minted.  If it had been something that was struck into the coin, the last 9 wouldn't be deformed like that.  I could be wrong, but this is what I honestly think in examining the photos.

On 1/14/2022 at 6:27 PM, JKK said:

How did you verify that? Not saying it's not, just want to know what has been done so far. My guess is it's Greek or Indo-Greek.

I agree with your assessment on the appearance, Jonathan......it looks like Greek or Indo-Greek.  But I think we need to wait for more information to really have what we need to establish it's true identity.

On 1/14/2022 at 5:23 PM, RWB said:

The designation for US Special Mint Sets comes from the official name of the sets. Canada's 1968-1975 sets were officially called "Uncirculated." The consistent solution is to designate a coin "proof-like" or "cameo PL" based only on its field reflectivity and contrast between field and relief. This should be a suffix to the official name.

I agree and your explanation makes sense, Roger.  I'm not trying to make a case for contrast that doesn't exist.  I have many 1968-1975 coins that clearly have cameo contrasts and reflectivity on par with the nicest 1967 U.S. Special Mint Set coins.  I'd be perfectly content with an MS Cameo PL grade from NGC on these coins.  However, I'm not happy with NGC completely ignoring cameo contrast and reflectivity that is obviously there just because the coins are considered "Uncirculated".  Which is exactly what NGC has been doing with the 1968-1975 coins since they started using the term "Uncirculated Set Issue" for them rather than "Proof-Like"

On 1/14/2022 at 5:21 PM, The Neophyte Numismatist said:

You're best bet in making that coin valuable is to put it in your pocket and let it wear down to P01.  

Speaking of PO1...I'd love to see a Canadian nickel dollar in that grade.  That would really be something.  

On 1/14/2022 at 5:02 PM, Coinbuf said:

I may have misunderstood your inquiry, I was under the impression that you wanted confirmation on a cud/damage which is what most members answered about.   If your question is "are the initials missing due to damage" then that answer would be no.   Mr. Lange has commented that in his opinion your coin could be authenticated as a missing initial coin,; however I'm not sure if it would be worth the cost to have it authenticated and graded given the condition.

I did a little research and the 1972-D No FG seems to have some decent value.  According to the PCGS Price Guide, it's worth $275 in XF.  However, Vero's coin is lower than XF and I think B.C.'s right......I think I can see the "G" of the "FG" peeking out in Vero's second photo.  I'm guessing that this coin started life with at least the G and the heavy wear has impacted the visibility of the initials.  Vero's coin is actually one of the most worn clad Kennedy Halves I've ever seen, and it's actually interesting to me for that fact.  I wonder how such a little used coin type managed to get that kind of wear.....it's on par with Washington Quarters I see in circulation of a similar age.  Maybe it's a pocket piece........