My newest proof set arrived today 1 1

[Mr.Bill347]

2023 American Women, unfortunately I’ve only ever heard of one.

[RWB]

Fraser's Washington portrait is so superior to the Flanagan version -- difficult to understand why it was rejected -- same for the reverse.

Edited March 24, 2023 by RWB

[Mr.Bill347]

On 3/24/2023 at 3:10 PM, RWB said:

Fraser's Washington portrait is so superior to the Flanagan version -- difficult to understand why it was rejected -- same for the reverse.

At least the Obverse is still Lauren Fraser’s design.

[EagleRJO]

On 3/24/2023 at 2:21 PM, Mr.Bill347 said:

unfortunately I’ve only ever heard of one

The mint has gone woke, so expect more of that.

[dclxvi]

I'm sorry. Not familiar with the term "woke". Can you explain it to me. How exactly does it apply to coin collecting?

[EagleRJO]

On 5/21/2023 at 5:56 PM, dclxvi said:

I'm sorry. Not familiar with the term "woke". Can you explain it to me. How exactly does it apply to coin collecting?

Do a search for "woke" [with my user name as the author] on the forum and the explanation should become clear.

Edited May 23, 2023 by EagleRJO

[dclxvi]

I was hoping you would give me your insight since you posted it. Don't be shy. I love coin collecting and feel that political comments should stay off of the forums.

[EagleRJO]

It is there with the search I gave you.  This should also help ...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woke

Edited May 22, 2023 by EagleRJO

[J P M]

On 5/22/2023 at 6:08 AM, EagleRJO said:

This should help ...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woke

I woke up this morning. That works for me.

[EagleRJO]

On 5/22/2023 at 6:42 AM, J P M said:

I woke up this morning

Geeze, took you long enough!  

[dclxvi]

If you guys don't know who the women on the coins are maybe you should be the ones doing a search. Coins are meant to be educational. Having people of color should not scare you. These forums are for everyone, and everyone should feel included. I hope the moderators and NGC feel the same way.

[EagleRJO]

On 3/24/2023 at 2:21 PM, Mr.Bill347 said:

2023 American Women, unfortunately I’ve only ever heard of one.

I am guessing the one you had heard of was Eleanor Roosevelt.  Some are pretty obscure.

On 5/22/2023 at 1:34 PM, dclxvi said:

If you guys don't know who the women on the coins are maybe you should be the ones doing a search. Coins are meant to be educational. Having people of color should not scare you. These forums are for everyone, and everyone should feel included. I hope the moderators and NGC feel the same way.

I am guessing many don't know most of them, but it's pretty easy to read up on them.

https://www.usmint.gov/learn/coin-and-medal-programs/american-women-quarters

Also, what is a moderator or NGC going to do if someone doesn't feel included?

[dclxvi]

They may not do anything, but I am going to ask.

[EagleRJO]

On 5/22/2023 at 7:17 PM, dclxvi said:

They may not do anything, but I am going to ask.

I have been a regular participant on this board for quite a while, and a lurker long before that.  Discussions of coin collecting and related tangents really hasn't been about race, color, creed, gender or personal preferences.  I cant imagine how that has or would be a factor on this board where someone might not feel 'included" and you would ask a moderator or NGC to get involved.

Perhaps you are aware of a situation where people have not felt "included" that I am not aware of, or one that might even come up.  I just don't see it with this board.

[dclxvi]

Then please explain "the Mint has gone woke" comment.

[RWB]

On 3/24/2023 at 7:24 PM, Mr.Bill347 said:

At least the Obverse is still Lauren Fraser’s design.

Fraser had already won the Washington Medal design competition and Sec of Treasury did not want to give the quarter design to her. He was also a confirmed misogynistic A-whole -- but his successor was also, despite differences in political party.

(Flanagan's quarter reverse had a family of eagles (similar to the one used on earlier platinum tokens), but Sec Treas ordered him to make something more conventional. Hence, the "hanging bat" design.)

[EagleRJO]

On 5/22/2023 at 8:40 PM, dclxvi said:

Then please explain "the Mint has gone woke" comment.

I'm not sure what that has to do with anything, which is already explained in the links provided anyway.  So it will not be repeated here if people are unable to do a simple search indicated or read the referenced Wiki page.

[EagleRJO]

On 3/24/2023 at 2:21 PM, Mr.Bill347 said:

My newest proof set arrived today ...

2023 American Women

Also, the 2023 Innovation $1 coins including OH and LA from the P & D mints are hot off the presses on the way to me.  I am all up to date with the complete series including P, D, S Proof & RP coins through 2022, so time to work on 2023.

I think it's interesting that the "Underground Railroad" was picked as the innovation for OH as I would normally think of a thing for an innovation.

https://www.usmint.gov/coins/coin-medal-programs/american-innovation-dollar-coins/ohio-underground-railroad

https://www.usmint.gov/coins/coin-medal-programs/american-innovation-dollar-coins/louisiana-higgins-boat

Edited May 23, 2023 by EagleRJO