Edgar Reed Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 Have recently received coins graded by NGC , that are not graded properly, PF70, MS70, are , or should be perfect coins !!! yes or no ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator LISA B Posted October 13, 2022 Administrator Share Posted October 13, 2022 Hello, What is the certification number for this piece? Lisa Edgar Reed 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edgar Reed Posted October 14, 2022 Author Share Posted October 14, 2022 6580975-049 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingAl Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 The scratches appear to be on the plastic to me. Coinbuf 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator LISA B Posted October 14, 2022 Administrator Share Posted October 14, 2022 Hello, Thank you. If you go to our website www.ngccoin.com and verify this piece you will see that it looks different. We image coins before we ship them. Coinbuf 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edgar Reed Posted October 14, 2022 Author Share Posted October 14, 2022 You can’t see the milky residue around the rim on the field? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandon Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 If you view the holder with magnification at different angles, you should be able to distinguish scratches and scuffs on the holder from those on the coin itself. Most grading service holders aren't very scratch resistant, and you have to be careful not to let them rub against rough surfaces, including other holders. There are cellophane wrappers and other covers on the market to protect them, as do the grooved "slab" boxes that separate the holders from each other. If you bought this coin sight unseen, and it arrived in a holder that was this scratched, you might want to see about returning it for exchange or refund. While several decades ago the numerical grade of "70" was supposed to represent a theoretical absolutely perfect coin--which in reality doesn't exist--today as used by grading services it refers to an uncirculated or proof coin that shows no imperfections at low magnification. As stated on NGC's "Grading Scale" page (under the "Coin Grading" tab at the top of the home page), "NGC defines a Mint State or Proof 70 coin as having no post-production imperfections at 5x magnification." For this reason, I've never understood the paying of high premiums for modern coins graded "70" over those graded "69", as there's usually no observably significant difference between them. As to the haze to which you just referred, this is sometimes found even on newly minted proof coins and often appears over time. Grading services don't consider it to be an imperfection. See item 8a. of NGC's grading guarantee at NGC Guarantee | Coin Certification Guarantee | NGC (ngccoin.com). For this and other reasons, don't buy any coin sight unseen if issues like these render a coin unacceptable to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edgar Reed Posted October 15, 2022 Author Share Posted October 15, 2022 No one has looked at the eagle side this is what I’m talking about I see the scratches are on the slab that from the way it was handled at the shippers, the reverse side is what I’m talking about , I also have a 2022 ANA 2022 PF70 Kennedy with finger prints . and yes I have a loop , Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edgar Reed Posted October 15, 2022 Author Share Posted October 15, 2022 Just forget it ! But before you do ask your self would I pay $500.00 for a coin and slab, in this condition ? My coin are stored in the proper container, and these coins are being replaced, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Fenntucky Mike Posted October 15, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 15, 2022 On 10/14/2022 at 3:37 PM, Edgar Reed said: You can’t see the milky residue around the rim on the field? It's called milk-spotting which can develop at anytime on the coin's surface, even years later, after slabbing. This appears to be what happened to your coin, a very common occurrence with ASE's, and one of the reasons I stay away from these types of coins. No TPG will guarantee against milk-spotting. Crawtomatic, Hoghead515 and JT2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morpheus1967 Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 On 10/14/2022 at 9:39 PM, Edgar Reed said: Just forget it ! But before you do ask your self would I pay $500.00 for a coin and slab, in this condition ? My coin are stored in the proper container, and these coins are being replaced, $500?? Coinbuf and RonnieR131 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoghead515 Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 I agree with Mike. NGC even has a disclaimer mentioning milk spots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
