Tridmn Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 SMS or business strike? 2 different coins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mohawk Posted September 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 23, 2021 (edited) From the pics, the top one looks like a proof and the bottom is a business strike. No SMS coins there. The "1964 SMS" issue is a controversial one but regardless of the controversy, a "1964 SMS", if it exists at all, isn't going to be anything you would just find out in the wild. You have a perfectly normal proof and a perfectly normal business strike. Edited September 23, 2021 by Mohawk KarenHolcomb, Tridmn and Alex in PA. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tridmn Posted September 23, 2021 Author Share Posted September 23, 2021 Were the proofs made in philly at the time? I thought they would have come from SF. On 9/22/2021 at 8:46 PM, Mohawk said: From the pics, the top one looks like a proof and the bottom is a business strike. No SMS coins there. The "1964 SMS" issue is a controversial one but regardless of the controversy, a "1964 SMS", if it exists at all, isn't going to be anything you would just find out in the wild. You have a perfectly normal proof and a perfectly normal business strike. KarenHolcomb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tridmn Posted September 23, 2021 Author Share Posted September 23, 2021 Even if both are just regular pennies, they are both in great shape. Good to add to my collection. James Zyskowski and KarenHolcomb 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tridmn Posted September 23, 2021 Author Share Posted September 23, 2021 That's why I asked. I needed some confirmation as to my own thoughts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mohawk Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 Hi Tridmn, Yes, in 1964 proofs were made in Philadelphia. Proof production shifted to San Francisco in 1968. Before that, proofs were made in Philadelphia. Tridmn and KarenHolcomb 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post James Zyskowski Posted September 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 23, 2021 And ofcourse what happened from 1965-1967 and those dang sms sets. Mohawk is right one the money about the proofs here’s my 63 pf 68 Mr.Bill347, Mohawk and Tridmn 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KarenHolcomb Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 On 9/22/2021 at 9:56 PM, Tridmn said: Were the proofs made in philly at the time? I thought they would have come from SF. Yes, Proofs were 'Struck' in Philly in 1964. Tridmn and Mohawk 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KarenHolcomb Posted September 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 23, 2021 On 9/22/2021 at 10:02 PM, Mohawk said: Hi Tridmn, Yes, in 1964 proofs were made in Philadelphia. Proof production shifted to San Francisco in 1968. Before that, proofs were made in Philadelphia. @MohawkIt seems I confirmed your info. I should have read all the responses before commenting myself. Ooops! RonnieR131, Mohawk, Alex in PA. and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mohawk Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 On 9/23/2021 at 1:03 PM, KarenHolcomb said: @MohawkIt seems I confirmed your info. I should have read all the responses before commenting myself. Ooops! No worries Karen!! The way I see it, you just took part in building a consensus! Alex in PA. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KarenHolcomb Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 @TridmnI did not look myself, but there is an FS Variety DDR for the 1964 that you might look for. Tridmn 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tridmn Posted September 24, 2021 Author Share Posted September 24, 2021 On 9/23/2021 at 6:37 PM, KarenHolcomb said: @TridmnI did not look myself, but there is an FS Variety DDR for the 1964 that you might look for. Ty Karen. I certainly will. Either way though they are beautiful coins. Probably keep them even if there is an error. 2 64s full red. Couldn't ask for much more from just 2 pennies. Especially that year, plus to have 2 different strikes, just makes my day KarenHolcomb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tridmn Posted September 24, 2021 Author Share Posted September 24, 2021 Ty all for the comments. Hope you didnt "waste" your time looking at these pennies. All responses were most helpful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KarenHolcomb Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 @TridmnYes Sir, they are awfully pretty. Bright Red! I would probably put them into a binder for keeps myself. Tridmn 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tridmn Posted September 25, 2021 Author Share Posted September 25, 2021 On 9/24/2021 at 1:47 AM, KarenHolcomb said: @TridmnYes Sir, they are awfully pretty. Bright Red! I would probably put them into a binder for keeps myself. That's where they intend to go, more or less. Have my coins I am keeping indefinitely in the plastic cases so they don't move. Have to keep the past preserved right? KarenHolcomb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tridmn Posted September 25, 2021 Author Share Posted September 25, 2021 I have never seen a business strike as nice as this one, for its age. Along with a proof for that matter unless it was still in plastic or in a small showcase box set online. Hope this time I asked the right questions, because I recieved all positive responses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KarenHolcomb Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 On 9/25/2021 at 3:38 AM, Tridmn said: I have never seen a business strike as nice as this one, for its age. Along with a proof for that matter unless it was still in plastic or in a small showcase box set online. Hope this time I asked the right questions, because I recieved all positive responses. See how that works? Good job. Enjoy your abfab finds and keep on hunting. Tridmn 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RWB Posted September 25, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 25, 2021 There are no "1964 SMS" coins - that myth is simply a play by some greedy sellers to take your money. JT2, VKurtB, Tridmn and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J P M Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 On 9/25/2021 at 9:34 AM, RWB said: There are no "1964 SMS" coins - that myth is simply a play by some greedy sellers to take your money. 1964 was the last year of the silver Proof set in the manila envelope. Mohawk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tridmn Posted September 27, 2021 Author Share Posted September 27, 2021 On 9/25/2021 at 9:33 AM, J P Mashoke said: 1964 was the last year of the silver Proof set in the manila envelope. Do you not mean last year for steel strike; or am I mistaken? It is I very well maybe mistaken. I was just wanting clarification please and ty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J P M Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 On 9/27/2021 at 3:18 AM, Tridmn said: Do you not mean last year for steel strike; or am I mistaken? It is I very well maybe mistaken. I was just wanting clarification please and ty. After the 1964 silver proof set in cellophane wrapper there was the 65 clad in the same type wrapper. Then 66 and 67 SMS set in the straight plastic holders and then the 1968 clad proof set was the first rectangle plastic holders Mohawk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tridmn Posted October 14, 2021 Author Share Posted October 14, 2021 On 9/27/2021 at 5:26 PM, J P Mashoke said: After the 1964 silver proof set in cellophane wrapper there was the 65 clad in the same type wrapper. Then 66 and 67 SMS set in the straight plastic holders and then the 1968 clad proof set was the first rectangle plastic holders Dont you mean steel? I've never heard of a silver penny at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWB Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 On 9/27/2021 at 3:18 AM, Tridmn said: Do you not mean last year for steel strike; or am I mistaken? It is I very well maybe mistaken. I was just wanting clarification please and ty. Zinc coated steel was used only in 1943. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tridmn Posted October 14, 2021 Author Share Posted October 14, 2021 (edited) On 10/13/2021 at 9:00 PM, RWB said: Zinc coated steel was used only in No actual silver for penny correct? That's my question Edited October 14, 2021 by Tridmn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tridmn Posted October 14, 2021 Author Share Posted October 14, 2021 Unless it was on the wrong plancet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tridmn Posted October 14, 2021 Author Share Posted October 14, 2021 Taking a closer look at the coin, I did find this. It's just like some sort of oxidation correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tridmn Posted October 14, 2021 Author Share Posted October 14, 2021 On 9/22/2021 at 8:46 PM, Mohawk said: From the pics, the top one looks like a proof and the bottom is a business strike. No SMS coins there. The "1964 SMS" issue is a controversial one but regardless of the controversy, a "1964 SMS", if it exists at all, isn't going to be anything you would just find out in the wild. You have a perfectly normal proof and a perfectly normal business strike. According to what I have researched there were no business strike for that particular year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBrad Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 (edited) On 10/13/2021 at 11:39 PM, Tridmn said: According to what I have researched there were no business strike for that particular year. According to my intel and reliable sources..... there were approximately 2,648,575,000 business strikes for the 1964 Philly Lincoln Cent. Of course.... they may be off a little bit. Edited October 14, 2021 by GBrad Tridmn 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J P M Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 On 10/14/2021 at 12:50 AM, GBrad said: According to my intel and reliable sources..... there were approximately 2,648,575,000 business strikes for the 1964 Philly Lincoln Cent. Of course.... they may be off a little bit. Yes one of the higher amount or pennies struck of any year up to that point. 64-D was even higher. I think the most pennies ever was 1982 Large Date with 10 Billion coins. LoL we never see those here. Tridmn 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RWB Posted October 14, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 14, 2021 On 10/13/2021 at 11:39 PM, Tridmn said: According to what I have researched there were no business strike for that particular year. Sounds like whatever you are using for research is very confused and false. Try starting over - just ask your questions here. The members will be pleased to help with clear, truthful information about coins. Alex in PA., Tridmn and Oldhoopster 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...